Scotland Debate

[One Planer]

Looking to the future there is I believe 570 oil rigs in the North Sea.
It costs the oil companies a fortune to de-commission them so plenty of work there boys and girls.

Some interesting links and information regarding this here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-28857939

 

[Old Skier]

I disagree, I think London and SE England gets far more than it's fair share from Westminster.

Someone once said if you want to judge wealth count the building cranes.
I believe that more than 90% of the UK's building cranes are currently working within the M25.

So the whole thing is based on jealousy and the me me me syndrome. The RUK is in the same boat. Scotland at least gets a better weather forecast from Carol than the rest of us.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

So the whole thing is based on jealousy and the me me me syndrome. The RUK is in the same boat. Scotland at least gets a better weather forecast from Carol than the rest of us.

Not jealousy, more equality/fairness.
HS2 is a very good example of getting it totally wrong.

 

[Foxholer]

Not jealousy, more equality/fairness.
HS2 is a very good example of getting it totally wrong.

H'mm. Not convinced (either way) on that, but believe that, without 'better' transport links, UK's development will be seriously restricted. And I'm a believer in more efficient Railways rather than more congested Roads. But HS2 provides absolutely zero benefit for Scotland!

 

[Old Skier]

H'mm. Not convinced (either way) on that, but believe that, without 'better' transport links, UK's development will be seriously restricted. And I'm a believer in more efficient Railways rather than more congested Roads. But HS2 provides absolutely zero benefit for Scotland!

Nor the West Country nor Wales so because it's no good for Scotland it shouldn't happen. I'm not keen on the project either but that's life, you win some and you lose many.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Nor the West Country nor Wales so because it's no good for Scotland it shouldn't happen. I'm not keen on the project either but that's life, you win some and you lose many.

Regional Assemblies for the other four English regions. NW.NE,Midlands & SW[SE already has a big one] is the answer.

 

[Old Skier]

Regional Assemblies for the other four English regions. NW.NE,Midlands & SW[SE already has a big one] is the answer.

NE already rejected the idea, Wales being a team player didn't want Indepenence and voted against it and only narrowly got an assembly, SW full of Scots so they will go for Indepenence and the NW don't normally bother to get of their bums to vote. I would worry about which way the midlands go.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

How do you work that one out or are you assuming that iscot will automatically buy UK defence equipment.

For a start they will be using the same equipment - and subsequently it would make sense to buy equipment that is inter-operable with what the rUK use - maybe also with the rUK MOD jointly fund development and procurement with of equipment Unless the rUK imposes a defence sales embargo on Scotland companies such BAESystems will I'm sure be more than happy to sell to Scotland.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

So the whole thing is based on jealousy and the me me me syndrome. The RUK is in the same boat. Scotland at least gets a better weather forecast from Carol than the rest of us.

Which is unfortunate for the rUK. Two weeks today we'll know the choice Scotland has made. I have to wait until next year to make my choice - and unfortunately I suspect I won't get what I vote for.

 

[Old Skier]

For a start they will be using the same equipment - and subsequently it would make sense to buy equipment that is inter-operable with what the rUK use - maybe also with the rUK MOD jointly fund development and procurement with of equipment Unless the rUK imposes a defence sales embargo on Scotland companies such BAESystems will I'm sure be more than happy to sell to Scotland.

Why will they be using the same kit. The British Forces plan in advance for their requirements (not very well) and their plan would not have included having to give it away. I suppose they could lease it to an iscot while they get some sort of plan. Ohh but there not very good at detail so that might take a while.

Have iscot said what kind of defence force they require.

I presume that if they decide to have a force they will do a procurment exercise and buy what they can afford in line with the equipment they feel they need for there forces,

 

[Foxholer]

Regional Assemblies for the other four English regions. NW.NE,Midlands & SW[SE already has a big one] is the answer.

How is that going to help with issues like HS2 though! That's where an overall body acting, supposedly, in the interests of the entire Country/Union (ie the Government) is the one that should be making the decisions. Regional Assemblies merely add an unnecessary level (or many more!) of bureaucracy imo. Different - more justifiable - where it's an actual Country involved though.

 

[Old Skier]

Which is unfortunate for the rUK. Two weeks today we'll know the choice Scotland has made. I have to wait until next year to make my choice - and unfortunately I suspect I won't get what I vote for.

Sounds like you may be better off moving if the Yes get in then although, and obviously I have no way of proving it, your true blue at heart or you wouldnt have stayed.

 

[Old Skier]

How is that going to help with issues like HS2 though! That's where an overall body acting, supposedly, in the interests of the entire Country/Union (ie the Government) is the one that should be making the decisions. Regional Assemblies merely add an unnecessary level (or many more!) of bureaucracy imo. Different - more justifiable - where it's an actual Country involved though.

And huge levels of extra cost.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Sounds like you may be better off moving if the Yes get in then although, and obviously I have no way of proving it, your true blue at heart or you wouldnt have stayed.

I might well be - unfortunately the decision is not mine.

 

[Val]

A perfect example of why NO are losing the voters

Why would that be? Higher interest rates without a currency union is a major negative to voting YES

 

[Doon frae Troon]

NE already rejected the idea, Wales being a team player didn't want Indepenence and voted against it and only narrowly got an assembly, SW full of Scots so they will go for Indepenence and the NW don't normally bother to get of their bums to vote. I would worry about which way the midlands go.

I can see a future when the Northern counties may wish to join Scotland.

 

[the smiling assassin]

I can see a future when the Northern counties may wish to join Scotland.

time for another jacobite uprising?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

time for another jacobite uprising?

Not quite, it will be voluntary this time.

 

[williamalex1]

Can someone explain why the likes New Zealand who have a smaller population than Scotland and have their own currency, manage to work hand in hand with Australia their nearest neighbour and biggest export market with no problems. ?

And how does the Isle of Mann manage to work with the UK when it has its own government and still uses the Pound ?.

Genuine questions .

 

[Adi2Dassler]

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