Scotland Debate

[Adi2Dassler]

Emergency appointment?

I suspect the same is true in Essex, routine appointments may well have a couple of weeks wait in the south

Wasnt the case when I was there, albeit some time ago now, glad its improved.

I dunno tbh.I rarely go to the docs, but when I need to, I call and they offer me a/b/c and I chose.This is based on Portobello surgery,

 

[FairwayDodger]

Scots get stuff free that the English don't.

OK, so once in a while I save £8.05 on a prescription. What other "stuff" do I get for free?

 

[c1973]

The logic and rationale behind the differentials in per head spending across the UK are one thing - the unfortunate truth seems to be fact that most who will spout on about these differentials by regurgitating tabloid headlines do not really have any interest in that rationale.

As for many emotive political issues their truth is simple to understand and state. Scots electorate get more funding per head than the English electorate and the Scots get stuff free that the English don't. One is the consequence of the other. That is unfair to some if not many of the English electorate and when Scotland votes NO they will have an expectation that that imbalance should be addressed. And in the run-up to the next Westminster GE there will be pressure on parties and candidates to address the imbalance - Scotland having decided to stay in the UK after all. If we are all in it together we should all feel the same pain.

Feel the same pain? What's the average wage in Surrey? Comparable with Ayrshire?

As mentioned previously 'their truth' is easier to state when those who should know better regurgitate the tabloid line instead of questioning it!

I hope they do address the imbalance and get the rest of the UK to pay more tax per head and bring it in line with Scots, share the pain and all that.

Btw, where do I get this free stuff from? I want some.

 

[Val]

The logic and rationale behind the differentials in per head spending across the UK are one thing - the unfortunate truth seems to be fact that most who will spout on about these differentials by regurgitating tabloid headlines do not really have any interest in that rationale.

As for many emotive political issues their truth is simple to understand and state. Scots electorate get more funding per head than the English electorate and the Scots get stuff free that the English don't. One is the consequence of the other. That is unfair to some if not many of the English electorate and when Scotland votes NO they will have an expectation that that imbalance should be addressed. And in the run-up to the next Westminster GE there will be pressure on parties and candidates to address the imbalance - Scotland having decided to stay in the UK after all. If we are all in it together we should all feel the same pain.

If it's simple then why are you having trouble understanding it?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Guys - are you being deliberately obtuse in misinterpreting my posts on 'free' stuff. These are not my thoughts - they are what some (or many?) others in England seem think. I am simply reporting what some - inside of and outside my club - have said to me. And they aren't stupid - it's what they think and so I assume believe. Please don't shoot the messenger. Simply saying that this could be an issue for Holyrood following a NO vote.

 

[c1973]

Guys - are you being deliberately obtuse in misinterpreting my posts on 'free' stuff. These are not my thoughts - they are what some (or many?) others in England seem think. I am simply reporting what some - inside of and outside my club - have said to me. And they aren't stupid - it's what they think and so I assume believe. Please don't shoot the messenger. Simply saying that this could be an issue for Holyrood following a NO vote.

Sorry hogan, I don't want to speak ill of your friends but if they believe tabloid headlines then as far as I'm concerned they are beyond stupid!

Point taken its not your view.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

As my wife and I are both pensioners we don't get any free stuff/benefits at all.
Who should I complain to?

 

[Val]

Guys - are you being deliberately obtuse in misinterpreting my posts on 'free' stuff. These are not my thoughts - they are what some (or many?) others in England seem think. I am simply reporting what some - inside of and outside my club - have said to me. And they aren't stupid - it's what they think and so I assume believe. Please don't shoot the messenger. Simply saying that this could be an issue for Holyrood following a NO vote.

You have continually used this free stuff nonsense in your posts hence why you get the responses you get

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Sorry hogan, I don't want to speak ill of your friends but if they believe tabloid headlines then as far as I'm concerned they are beyond stupid!

Point taken its not your view.

They are not stupid but just don't get it. And so they are questioning the 'imbalance' and the 'free stuff'. I am not saying that a majority of English voters think this way but I suspect that many do. Feel free to call them stupid but I suggest that in the event of a NO their voice on this matter will be shrill and loud. North of the border you might not hear it at the moment but I suspect that you will.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

You have continually used this free stuff nonsense in your posts hence why you get the responses you get

I use the term 'free stuff' as that is what I have regularly heard it referred to down here - it is not my 'nonsense' - and there is resentment.

 

[Val]

They are not stupid but just don't get it. And so they are questioning the 'imbalance' and the 'free stuff'. I am not saying that a majority of English voters think this way but I suspect that many do. Feel free to call them stupid but I suggest that in the event of a NO their voice on this matter will be shrill and loud. North of the border you might not hear it at the moment but I suspect that you will.

Will or might?

 

[CMAC]

They are not stupid but just don't get it. And so they are questioning the 'imbalance' and the 'free stuff'. I am not saying that a majority of English voters think this way but I suspect that many do. Feel free to call them stupid but I suggest that in the event of a NO their voice on this matter will be shrill and loud at the Golf club, and ignored elsewhere North of the border you might not hear it at the moment but I suspect that you will.

added and fixed that for you

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Feel the same pain? What's the average wage in Surrey? Comparable with Ayrshire?

I'll counter with the easy one - What's the average house price in Ayrshire? Comparable with Surrey?

 

[Val]

I use the term 'free stuff' as that is what I have regularly heard it referred to down here - it is not my 'nonsense' - and there is resentment.

If it's not your why do you continue to use it? My suggestion is you agree with it

 

[CMAC]

I use the term 'free stuff' as that is what I have regularly heard it referred to down here - it is not my 'nonsense' - and there is resentment.

which stems from ignorance!

 

[Val]

I'll counter with the easy one - What's the average house price in Ayrshire? Comparable with Surrey?

Cheaper, people in Surrey pay more as they get paid more

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

added and fixed that for you

Nope - don't quite get your changes. Are you suggesting that only folk at my golf club care about this and nobody else in England outside of a golf club cares? You are wrong if you think that.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Cheaper, people in Surrey pay more as they get paid more

Don't think so...

Some may get paid more but it doesn't much help my cost of living.

 

[Val]

Don't think so...

Really, so the average salary in Ayrshire is the same as Surrey?

 

[CMAC]

Nope - don't quite get your changes. Are you suggesting that only folk at my golf club care about this and nobody else in England outside of a golf club cares? You are wrong if you think that.

read it again then, it's very clear