Scotland Debate

SwingsitlikeHogan said:
So what do you want me to do - take my kids out of school and college - change my job and my wife's job? Oh yes - that'll work!

I'm just delighted to hear that everyone who lives in Scotland cares about this and is completely engaged with the debate and that there with be a 100% turnout. Of course they all do - of course there will be - really?
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Well yes - if really do care so much about your country like you state - why are you not back there to ensure you get your voice ?
 
In_The_Rough said:
Is Sean Connery going to vote as he is a staunch SNP supporter? Perhaps he can email it in from his Bahamas villa:)
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The wife beater has been very quiet,eh?I reckon he's been telt, keep schtum ya tax avoiding auld goat.

Speaking of celebs, its interesting that Billy Connolly has ruled out taking sides...once a labour supporting unionist, now having second thoughts?
 
I wouldn't worry about it, whatever the outcome there'll be nothing left to govern and take forward. The current leadership of all the parties in Scotland seem to spend all their time preparing for the vote in 8 months time. Who is actually actively governing the country at the moment and who is looking out for for us NOW rather than focussing on something that will take place in the future.

Aye, if this keeps up we're off to hell in a handcart :p
 
Adi2Dassler said:
The wife beater has been very quiet,eh?I reckon he's been telt, keep schtum ya tax avoiding auld goat.

Speaking of celebs, its interesting that Billy Connolly has ruled out taking sides...once a labour supporting unionist, now having second thoughts?
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Indeed, only said it for a bit of banter but you correct in what you are saying. I like Billy though I think he is a decent man and have a lot of time for him. Anyway on a more serious note I do not people who have gone abroad to live in particular wealthy people who have done it for tax reasons and nothing else should be having their say on political matters on a country which they choose not to live in. If I went to live in the USA I would not be protesting and commenting on UK matters Morrissey are you reading this
 
In_The_Rough said:
Indeed, only said it for a bit of banter but you correct in what you are saying. I like Billy though I think he is a decent man and have a lot of time for him. Anyway on a more serious note I do not people who have gone abroad to live in particular wealthy people who have done it for tax reasons and nothing else should be having their say on political matters on a country which they choose not to live in. If I went to live in the USA I would not be protesting and commenting on UK matters Morrissey are you reading this
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Bono appears to be one of the worst at doing that

Constantly bleating about the need for more funds and aid for the less well off and having his say on the poor finances in his country - whilst he sits on his tax free multi billions contributing nothing
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Bono appears to be one of the worst at doing that

Constantly bleating about the need for more funds and aid for the less well off and having his say on the poor finances in his country - whilst he sits on his tax free multi billions contributing nothing
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Does he not live in Ireland though I am not sure? Know what you are saying with the Tax dodging though and the constant aid appeals!!
 
In_The_Rough said:
Does he not live in Ireland though I am not sure? Know what you are saying with the Tax dodging though and the constant aid appeals!!
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Only for a couple months of the year ( save pay taxes ) - has places in the States , Caribbean and Monaco
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Only for a couple months of the year ( save pay taxes ) - has places in the States , Caribbean and Monaco
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Real jet setter then isn't he, and as usual Monaco makes it's appearance. Still at least he spends a bit of time in the country. Morrissey only comes over here if he is doing a tour and yet is one of the most vocal of all ex pats, hate the bloke but he does make some great tunes and The Smiths were superb. Monaco it is about time they clamped down on that place, it is in Europe is it not. Makes a joke of everything really.
 
In_The_Rough said:
Real jet setter then isn't he, and as usual Monaco makes it's appearance. Still at least he spends a bit of time in the country. Morrissey only comes over here if he is doing a tour and yet is one of the most vocal of all ex pats, hate the bloke but he does make some great tunes and The Smiths were superb. Monaco it is about time they clamped down on that place, it is in Europe is it not. Makes a joke of everything really.
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Isle of Man is another tax haven ( just less glamour )

The country forces these people away and stops the top sports men/ladies from playing here - tax laws

Same with big sporting events - the sportsmen just don't want to give away over 50% of their winnings to our government
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Isle of Man is another tax haven ( just less glamour )

The country forces these people away and stops the top sports men/ladies from playing here - tax laws

Same with big sporting events - the sportsmen just don't want to give away over 50% of their winnings to our government
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Yes the Manx does not quite have the glamour of Monaco does it. Know what you are saying about the 50% rate but people on far less money than those have to pay it so don't fully buy into that, that is why they do it yes but I do think it is a bit of bad form on their part
 
In_The_Rough said:
Yes the Manx does not quite have the glamour of Monaco does it. Know what you are saying about the 50% rate but people on far less money than those have to pay it so don't fully buy into that, that is why they do it yes but I do think it is a bit of bad form on their part
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We are over taxed here as it is - our country must be rolling in it with the amount we have to pay to our government
 
In_The_Rough said:
You kidding? we are a few trillion in debt are we not add to the fact we near a few billion loose change hanging about in case we decide to have a war with someone else
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Yeah I know mate - was sort of taking the micheal about the state of our countries finances

It isn't down to us that we are in trouble ( well not as bad as we were )
 
So the Chancellor has stated that if Scotland vote for Independance then they walk away from the pound

So Eurozone it is then - good luck with that :thup:
 
Old Skier said:
We have a political miracle. All 3 major parties are towing the same line.
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You mean they are trying to pull a fast one?

Though actually @liverpoolphil
So the Chancellor has stated that if Scotland vote for Independance then they walk away from the pound
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I don't think he's saying that is he - he seems more to be saying that rUK wouldn't admit Scotland to a 'Sterling-zone'

Interesting listening to Osborne at the moment as he has leapt into the referendum debate with both wellies as he is telling the YES campaign that they have got their finances and economics all wrong.

I don't think though there is any relevance going back to the banking crisis and considering an iScotland's ability to bail out their banks in the way the UK has had to. Well there wasn't a banking crisis on an iScotland government watch - it didn't happen - and the chances of their being a further one of any like the same nature are very slim - iScotland or not.

Of course their 'we will not agree to a sterling-zone' statement today does not actually tell us what might be his response were the First Minister of an iScotland to come knocking on his door asking to join one. He might not like it but...

Besides - telling Scotland that an rUK will let an iScotland sink - if that is what would happen as Osborne seems to think would happen - then that is a little dodgy as it displays a Westminster attitude to Scotland that is grist to the mill for the YES campaign.

Anyway - let's see how this goes down in Scotland - interesting - veeeery interesting.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
You mean they are trying to pull a fast one?

Though actually @liverpoolphil I don't think he's saying that is he - he seems more to be saying that rUK wouldn't admit Scotland to a 'Sterling-zone'

Interesting listening to Osborne at the moment as he has leapt into the referendum debate with both wellies as he is telling the YES campaign that they have got their finances and economics all wrong.

I don't think though there is any relevance going back to the banking crisis and considering an iScotland's ability to bail out their banks in the way the UK has had to. Well there wasn't a banking crisis on an iScotland government watch - it didn't happen - and the chances of their being a further one of any like the same nature are very slim - iScotland or not.Of course their 'we will not agree to a sterling-zone' statement today does not actually tell us what might be his response were the First Minister of an iScotland to come knocking on his door asking to join one. He might not like it but...

Besides - telling Scotland that an rUK will let an iScotland sink - if that is what would happen as Osborne seems to think would happen - then that is a little dodgy as it displays a Westminster attitude to Scotland that is grist to the mill for the YES campaign.

Anyway - let's see how this goes down in Scotland - interesting - veeeery interesting.
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At best that is naive.

If not naive then dumb.

Why isn't Salmond knocking on his door? I've said before that, were I voting (either way) I'd want him to practically live in Westminster and Downing St to actually come up with answers to the questions that are being asked. Why do you think he isn't? Is it because the answers/reality aren't in line with his "what I want to happen" white paper?
 
How do you get by each day living and working in a country you clearly want no part off

It always amuses me the anti English fraction from Scotland who actually abide in England

Basically anti English in just words


If they are so proud of Scotland then we will all look forward to them moving back to Scotland in the near future because it appears that live is going to be perfect for them after the vote
 
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