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Old Skier
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GuDankeNope that's banter:thup:
Doon frae Troon
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Well you did miss out the 'S' word so probably not!
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Scouser ?
So what do you think of IT skilled people earning thousands each week in Scotland ? Does that go against your theory ?
Foxholer
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I'm most certainly not a Colonialist!
As I posted, 'The Shires' is not enough - certainly not a good description. What colour was that 'fat backside' of England in electoral results? Blue of course! So you would possibly be less wrong/incomplete if you simply stated 'England minus the South West and North (East)'!
Doon frae Troon
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I was talking about general ' skilled odd job men'. Roofers/Sweeps/Gardeners/Joiners etc
I shall see your Edinburgh IT person and raise you a London banker.
Foxholer
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And how much would those folk be earning in Liverpool /Manchester/Birmingham - or London?
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The wages differ dependent on the region in the UK as opposed to the culture
I fully expect there will be some well paid "general skilled" workers in Scotland as there are in England , Wales and N. Ireland
There will be areas in Scotland that get paid more than areas in the rest of the UK so your original point was very strange but also quite irrelevant
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Depends for which company - our contractors don't earn that much , yet some companies will pay more
Normally is around 200-400 a day for general IT Server/Application support
DC network guys can earn more
NWJocko
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A stupid, stupid post.
DfT, I'd suggest he's not all that "skilled" if he's charging £8 an hour.
Compare any City in the UK to London and it will look worse, London is a freak.
I know that in Banking the salaries available in Edinburgh are, at worst, on a par with those in Manchester and Leeds and on many occasions higher for equivalent roles.
Edit: I hope you don't think everyone in England could pay £500 cash on the spot?! Clueless.
Foxholer
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We are into he Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics issue again - or even numbers not worthy of being called Statistics!
Compare like with like! Not knocking the numbers btw. They match what I know to be the rates. Just their misuse! I certainly know of IT folk working in the Midlands/North West getting 600+. Some are even worth it!
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Doon frae Troon
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He is well skilled, otherwise I would not use him, so not so stupid thanks.
On the programme ALL of the people there eventually paid their fines on the spot either in cash or by card. The fines were around the £500/600 mark. Who is stupid now!!
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We are into he Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics issue again - or even numbers not worthy of being called Statistics!
Compare like with like! Not knocking the numbers btw. They match what I know to be the rates. Just their misuse! I certainly know of IT folk working in the Midlands/North West getting 600+. Some are even worth it!
I just mentioned the IT as a counter to DfT 8 pound an hour general skilled worker to show that Scotland can get people earning big wages
Know plenty in IT earning over a grand a day plus more
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Well skilled at what ? Putting a fence up or other building areas ?
stevie_r
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So they made a programme which showed everyone paying their fine on the spot, that means absolutely nothing; perhaps the programme makers thought footage of people not paying their fine on the spot might be a bit dull (sorry - duller).
Doon frae Troon
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One guy refused to pay and they could not prove who owned his van.
They let him go and told him the bailiffs would visit his house.
They let him go and told him the bailiffs would visit his house.
Foxholer
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So you know of plenty earning 1K+ in England and some in Scotland earning 600. The way you've misused numbers, that means Scottish rates are less than 60% of English ones!
Stop faffing and get some facts.
Oh and maybe get back to topic too!
It's about independence (please note the spelling!) not pay rates.
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So you know of plenty earning 1K+ in England and some in Scotland earning 600. The way you've misused numbers, that means Scottish rates are less than 60% of English ones!
Stop faffing and get some facts.
Oh and maybe get back to topic too!
To join you on the pedantic train
When did I say know plenty earn over 1K in ENGLAND
Maybe cover yourself before trying to be a smart arse
Foxholer
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It was indeed an assumption/inference - but a pretty reasonable one under the circumstances (unless outside UK which merely confirms my 'faffing' comment). If they were in Scotland you would have used them rather than those on 600.
So where are they? Rates in Ireland and Wales ain't normally that high!
And you next bit of faff could well be that you didn't mention £s either!
NWJocko
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I said your post was stupid (not you) as it implies (through the "different culture" comment) that everyone is loaded down here whilst everyone in Scotland is skint/underpaid/put upon which, I assume to make it relevant to the topic, you take as a reason for ascots wanting independence?!
So, from your last paragraph you are firmly of the belief that everyone in England can pay a £500 fine on the spot whilst nobody in Scotland can, is that what you are saying?
Why is your friend only charging £8 an hour out of interest?
