Ross Fisher = The new Nick Faldo?

[krokodil]

Has much more ability to shoot lower than Faldo,

Faldo won the open in 1990 with scores of 67 65 67 71 round St Andrews.

How often has Fisher scored much lower than that ?

63 68 68 69 European Open 2008

Granted Fishers round is numerically superior, but surely you can't compare the European Open with The Open.....greater pressure for a start?

I'm not, I was responding to the question of the guys scoring ability....but since you asked:

Fisher 70-68-69-72
Faldo 70-76-66-73

Bethpage Black, US Open

 

[Faldo_Fan]

Has much more ability to shoot lower than Faldo,

Faldo won the open in 1990 with scores of 67 65 67 71 round St Andrews.

How often has Fisher scored much lower than that ?

63 68 68 69 European Open 2008

Granted Fishers round is numerically superior, but surely you can't compare the European Open with The Open.....greater pressure for a start?

I'm not, I was responding to the question of the guys scoring ability....but since you asked:

Fisher 70-68-69-72
Faldo 70-76-66-73

Bethpage Black, US Open

Ho Hum.....this is just silly, i like Fisher and think he's a real talent and will become a great player, but to suggest he's better than a six time major winner and former world number 1 is.......well silly.

The scores you put up of Faldo's last time he played Bethpage compared to Fishers scores at this years US Open, it's unlikely the weather conditions of even the courses characteristics were identical. Out of the two of them, I see Faldo had the low round of the week (66).

Out of interest, what was the winning score this year compared to the last time it was played there?

 

[CrapHacker]

Has much more ability to shoot lower than Faldo,

Faldo won the open in 1990 with scores of 67 65 67 71 round St Andrews.

How often has Fisher scored much lower than that ?

63 68 68 69 European Open 2008

Granted Fishers round is numerically superior, but surely you can't compare the European Open with The Open.....greater pressure for a start?

I'm not, I was responding to the question of the guys scoring ability....but since you asked:

Fisher 70-68-69-72
Faldo 70-76-66-73

Bethpage Black, US Open

You say that Fisher has 'MUCH more ability' than Faldo to shoot low scores.

That answer just doesn't compute. This is no comparison. I was asking for you to show examples of how low he has scored in similar circumstances.

Like I said Fisher is good. If lows scores excite you then , yes 63 is the first round at The London Club is brilliant.

But if you think that's as good as a 65 round a Championship St Andrews with equipment from 20 years ago....

Ok try hitting a championship low in the final round ( not the first round ) of the Masters to take the title.

1989 Masters Faldo hit a 77 in the 3rd round to take himself out of the title chance, just like so many British players before and since. But then turned it round with a 65 and took the playoff to win the grand total of just under a quarter mill. Great play. Great scoring. Great champion.

I don't blame you for championing Fisher - he has great potential. But he's not there yet. Low scoring isn't just about numbers, it's also about how the course is set up, and what the rest of the players are doing.

Faldo is famous for being able to graft his way round a course, but he had the game to score low as well.

Fisher will do well to have a career even half as good as Faldo.

 

[CrapHacker]

I am gradually becoming more and more impressed though in general; he could overtake some of the more experienced players (Casey etc.) but it's a year or two off still.
If he keeps improving.....well, he might just be THE man in the next few years.

THAT's a truer picture of where he stands at the moment.

Although, being a Casey fan, I'm hoping my man gets his game going this week, and gives us something to cheer about.

Don't you just love the build up to the Open. It surely gets the golfing juices flowing

 

[krokodil]

Has much more ability to shoot lower than Faldo,

Faldo won the open in 1990 with scores of 67 65 67 71 round St Andrews.

How often has Fisher scored much lower than that ?

63 68 68 69 European Open 2008

Granted Fishers round is numerically superior, but surely you can't compare the European Open with The Open.....greater pressure for a start?

I'm not, I was responding to the question of the guys scoring ability....but since you asked:

Fisher 70-68-69-72
Faldo 70-76-66-73

Bethpage Black, US Open

Ho Hum.....this is just silly, i like Fisher and think he's a real talent and will become a great player, but to suggest he's better than a six time major winner and former world number 1 is.......well silly.

The scores you put up of Faldo's last time he played Bethpage compared to Fishers scores at this years US Open, it's unlikely the weather conditions of even the courses characteristics were identical. Out of the two of them, I see Faldo had the low round of the week (66).

Out of interest, what was the winning score this year compared to the last time it was played there?

Where did I suggest he's a better player?
Yeah the course is a few hundred yards longer now than then. I've no idea of the scores.

I suggested, that in my opinion his style of golf will garner lower scores, consistently-well that's a different matter entirely, and to perform on the major stage to the level that Faldo did, well that would be a huge task.

 

[krokodil]

Has much more ability to shoot lower than Faldo,

Faldo won the open in 1990 with scores of 67 65 67 71 round St Andrews.

How often has Fisher scored much lower than that ?

63 68 68 69 European Open 2008

Granted Fishers round is numerically superior, but surely you can't compare the European Open with The Open.....greater pressure for a start?

I'm not, I was responding to the question of the guys scoring ability....but since you asked:

Fisher 70-68-69-72
Faldo 70-76-66-73

Bethpage Black, US Open

You say that Fisher has 'MUCH more ability' than Faldo to shoot low scores.

That answer just doesn't compute. This is no comparison. I was asking for you to show examples of how low he has scored in similar circumstances.

Like I said Fisher is good. If lows scores excite you then , yes 63 is the first round at The London Club is brilliant.

But if you think that's as good as a 65 round a Championship St Andrews with equipment from 20 years ago....

Ok try hitting a championship low in the final round ( not the first round ) of the Masters to take the title.

1989 Masters Faldo hit a 77 in the 3rd round to take himself out of the title chance, just like so many British players before and since. But then turned it round with a 65 and took the playoff to win the grand total of just under a quarter mill. Great play. Great scoring. Great champion.

I don't blame you for championing Fisher - he has great potential. But he's not there yet. Low scoring isn't just about numbers, it's also about how the course is set up, and what the rest of the players are doing.

Faldo is famous for being able to graft his way round a course, but he had the game to score low as well.

Fisher will do well to have a career even half as good as Faldo.

Well you gave me scores from an Open, what 20yrs ago? Obv I can't provide figures for Fisher from then, can I?

My point is, and if read the post, I said the ability to score lower than Faldo, I didn't say over 4 rounds or anything about in a major championship. I personally think his length and attacking style is more conducive to really low rounds than Faldo's.

 

[CrapHacker]

I said the ability to score lower than Faldo, I didn't say over 4 rounds or anything about in a major championship. I personally think his length and attacking style is more conducive to really low rounds than Faldo's.

I don't want to put Fisher down, because he's convincing me more and more about his potential.

But Faldo could, and did, score low regularly in his heyday.

I have to mention scores from 20 years ago because that's when Faldo was at his best. And at his best he wasn't just the steadiest player out there, he was the scariest as well. Faldo hit really low rounds pretty regularly, and I've only highlighted the obvious one's he made in pressure cooker rounds in the majors.

I've been a fan of Faldo since about 1980, and I've never seen a Brit that can get close to him ( at his peak ) at any part of the game, except for putting, when he tried to make it too mechanical in the downslide of his dominance.

But bottom line, he could score as low as anyone.