Retrieving a card from the Comp Box

[Imurg]

As I've said more times than I've had hot dinners, it's not the existence of the signature that is important, it's a statement of "I've checked the gross scores with my marker".

If I'm correct in that you can sign your card before you start, how is the signature, necessarily, proof that the scores have been checked...?

 

[rulefan]

If I'm correct in that you can sign your card before you start, how is the signature, necessarily, proof that the scores have been checked...?

It isn't. It's really a known loophole in the rule. It has probably never been addressed as enforcing it would be virtually impossible.

 

[Imurg]

So someone who signs their card before play, doesn't check scores but actually puts the right numbers down is in the clear but someone who forgets to sign the card but also puts the right numbers down is DQd.....
Makes you wonder why signing the card is such a big deal......

 

[Hacker-Leeds]

Lots of players at my club sign their card before they go out - a bit naughty but it is then down to their marker to confirm their scores at the end. If he/she and the player disagree then the conflict should be resolved before any card is submitted - at least its signed !!

 

[rulefan]

So someone who signs their card before play, doesn't check scores but actually puts the right numbers down is in the clear but someone who forgets to sign the card but also puts the right numbers down is DQd.....
Makes you wonder why signing the card is such a big deal......

The player doesn't enter his own scores on the card. He is trusting his marker not himself.

 

[rulie]

So someone who signs their card before play, doesn't check scores but actually puts the right numbers down is in the clear but someone who forgets to sign the card but also puts the right numbers down is DQd.....
Makes you wonder why signing the card is such a big deal......

Signed any cheques or other documents lately? Your signature verifies that you're in agreement with the contents.

 

[Imurg]

Signed any cheques or other documents lately? Your signature verifies that you're in agreement with the contents.

As I said, if you sign before you play how is that agreeing with the contents..?
If your card is signed before play, what is to stop your marker keeping the card and putting it in the box without checking scores?

 

[rosecott]

As I said, if you sign before you play how is that agreeing with the contents..?
If your card is signed before play, what is to stop your marker keeping the card and putting it in the box without checking scores?

Answer - nothing.

 

[rulie]

As I said, if you sign before you play how is that agreeing with the contents..?
If your card is signed before play, what is to stop your marker keeping the card and putting it in the box without checking scores?

It's your responsibility to check your scores. Your signature verifies that you have done this and that they are correct - signing the card beforehand is done at your own risk, but it's not against the Rules.

 

[2blue]

Sorry, 2Blue, but you know my views !

Your scorecard is YOUR property until it is handed to the committee (normally by putting it the comp box) and you are responsible for it. For me, walk off the 18th, agree scores with your marker, SIGN YOUR CARD, and after that you have done your best.

PS - to my first post on this.....

Just like Royal Mail, my view is that - once the card has gone in the comp box 'slot' it is submitted to the committee, and cannot be retrieved. Try asking a man emptying the post-box if you can have a letter back that you didn't mean to send ! Simple rule, for me, post your card, and that's it - if you trust someone else to do it, more fool you.

It's a big welcome, indeed, to the Forum for the man who commissioned the creation of these Camouflaged Golf Balls, one of which he gave to, friend, Sandy of GoKarts to make this fine Trophy... & the rest is now history.... Just hope he keeps out of trouble!! haha :rofl::rofl:

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Late to the party on this one. Considering most clubs have a system where you enter your scores on a computer it always surprises me that the actual card, and signature is still required. Surely it is only a matter of time before the requirement to physically hand a card in becomes a thing of the past.

 

[duncan mackie]

Late to the party on this one. Considering most clubs have a system where you enter your scores on a computer it always surprises me that the actual card, and signature is still required. Surely it is only a matter of time before the requirement to physically hand a card in becomes a thing of the past.

You realise that your approach removes the marker concept completely...?

 

[2blue]

Late to the party on this one. Considering most clubs have a system where you enter your scores on a computer it always surprises me that the actual card, and signature is still required. Surely it is only a matter of time before the requirement to physically hand a card in becomes a thing of the past.

Without a card how can things be checked?

 

[rulefan]

A gismo at the exit from each green. It senses you individually, finger recognition. Your or marker enters your score and you or marker confirm

 

[williamalex1]

A gismo at the exit from each green. It senses you individually, finger recognition. Your or marker enters your score and you or marker confirm

Check Bob's thread in OOB section, Too old for gadgets

 

[bobmac]

A gismo at the exit from each green. It senses you individually, finger recognition. Your or marker enters your score and you or marker confirm

It's only a game

 

[Leftie]

You're right Bob. It's not a matter of life or death ..............

It's far more important than that

 

[Colin L]

A voice recognition gizmo would do it for me. Every time it hears me saying "aw not again" or similar, it counts a stroke.

 

[clubchamp98]

A gismo at the exit from each green. It senses you individually, finger recognition. Your or marker enters your score and you or marker confirm

What could possibly go wrong.

My mate thought the screen in our buggy on hols wasn’t working he poked it that much he order 16 pizzas at the halfway house, it’s true!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

You realise that your approach removes the marker concept completely...?

Without a card how can things be checked?

The marker is still part of the process. When you enter your scores into the computer the marker has to identify themselves as part of the process. Only when the marker has agreed the score can the card be considered as entered. For example, Golfer A swipes their card so that the computer recognises them. They input their scores. At the end the computer asks if the marker, Player B agrees with the scores. They swipe their card to identify themselves and press a button that says yes. Simple. If Player B does not agree with the card then the score remains unconfirmed in the system until the competition sec of committee resolve the issue, as currently happens.

How are things checked? Via what they have inputted into the screen. It really is no different. Ask the thousands of companies that stopped running paper books years ago and just use computer software. It would be much easier as the pencil scribbles on most cards are pretty illegible. Inputting them on the screen gives the comp sec a clear view of the scores.

It is 2018 folks, paper is so last century