Relief from bunkers

[Colin L]

Option II The ball must be dropped no nearer the hole.

Thank you for that, but it wasn't really necessary as not nearer the hole is implicit in the meaning of nearest point of relief.. You might like to look at the definition which includes,

It is the point on the course nearest to where the ball lies:

(i) that is not nearer the hole.........

And as to not dropping nearer the hole than the NPR, that's a basic principle i in almost every kind of drop, don't you think?

 

[bladeplayer]

The line in the original post that made me chuckle was that he couldn't take relief as the club would touch the lip of the bunker on the backswing. If only we all got relief from such a situation!

I took it from that statement that he hadnt the option/chance of making a full swing ..

 

[Colin L]

The line in the original post that made me chuckle was that he couldn't take relief as the club would touch the lip of the bunker on the backswing. If only we all got relief from such a situation!

I took it from that statement that he hadnt the option/chance of making a full swing ..

You've just alerted me to a point I should have made earlier on: you can only take relief where there is the least interference if full relief is not possible. In the OP's situation, if the nearest point of relief could be established i.e. where was no interference by the water, any difficulty that would be caused to the player's swing by the closeness of the wall of the bunker is irrelevant. The NPR is wherever there is full relief regardless of problems created by anything else. So if there were full relief available from the casual water , the player could not take maximum relief simply because of being close to the wall of the bunker.

 

[bladeplayer]

You've just alerted me to a point I should have made earlier on: you can only take relief where there is the least interference if full relief is not possible. In the OP's situation, if the nearest point of relief could be established i.e. where was no interference by the water, any difficulty that would be caused to the player's swing by the closeness of the wall of the bunker is irrelevant. The NPR is wherever there is full relief regardless of problems created by anything else. So if there were full relief available from the casual water , the player could not take maximum relief simply because of being close to the wall of the bunker.

Thank you that does make sense now you have explained it , i did have to read it twice but yes makes total sense
apologies to Wabinez

 

[ManinBlack]

:rofl:But just remember, any player relieving himself in a bunker just adds to the casual water problem.

 

[Stuey01]

If the ball can be dropped in the bunker out of water, no nearer the hole, but in a position that means the player's stance is taken outside of the bunker, would that constitute full relief?
If yes, that would mean that the player would not be entitled to partial (maximum?) relief that meant standing in the bunker, but in the water, ball in the bunker, out of the water? Though that might b preferable for the player.

 

[rulefan]

If the ball can be dropped in the bunker out of water, no nearer the hole, but in a position that means the player's stance is taken outside of the bunker, would that constitute full relief?

Yes

 

[24849308]

The line in the original post that made me chuckle was that he couldn't take relief as the club would touch the lip of the bunker on the backswing. If only we all got relief from such a situation!

My issue with that was that there was no "full" relief. However Colin was kind enough to point out that full relief is not required