Reece Dempster, murderer and rapist.

[Deleted member 16999]

This guy is 23
He could easily live another 50+ years
Isnt keeping him isolated for that amount of time potentially more inhumane..?
The psychological effects of isolation for that long must be immense

And make suffer every single day. Absolutely no sympathy for him in anyway.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

And make suffer every single day. Absolutely no sympathy for him in anyway.

Revenge over justice? People can feel that way but a legitimate government must not act that way.

 

[Imurg]

And make suffer every single day. Absolutely no sympathy for him in anyway.

And that's better than execution..?
More humane..?
Sorry Paul, I just dont see that.

 

[Hobbit]

This guy is 23
He could easily live another 50+ years
Isnt keeping him isolated for that amount of time potentially more inhumane..?
The psychological effects of isolation for that long must be immense

50 years @ £36k a year + inflation = £2m++

If the death penalty is not a deterent maybe life in solitary might be?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

And that's better than execution..?
More humane..?
Sorry Paul, I just dont see that.

I don’t care about him or his rights, I don’t believe in the death penalty for all murders so if I’m for keeping them alive and in prison, make them suffer.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

I don’t care about him or his rights, I don’t believe in the death penalty for all murders so if I’m for keeping them alive and in prison, make them suffer.

You've morally defined yourself, sir, and not admirably from my perspective.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

You've morally defined yourself, sir, and not admirably from my perspective.

And you are a troll and I have no interest in what you say.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

And you are a troll and I have no interest in what you say.

Alas, there's no middle finger among the emoticons.

 

[Tashyboy]

Are you saying they don’t have this crime over there? Is that because everybody who breaks in to a house in the USA intending to murder someone is shot before or whilst committing the crime?
Or are you just rambling?

Just like the girl in Middlesbrough this week who was cleared of murder and manslaughter after stabbing her father to death in self defence, sadly the old lady was unable to defend herself and he should be locked up, hard labour, isolated, till the day he dies.

no. What I am saying is that YOB is getting a lot of grief over guns in the USA, a lot of what people are carrying in the USA he disagrees with. What I am saying is that if a low life piece of scum like Dempster tried that in the USA.He would now be toast. That old woman could of been my mum, yours, Wolfs or LPs. If he had been blown away, no one would of shed a tear.

Could it be argued that some people just dont deserve to live?
For crimes such as this, where proof is definite, where the crime is so shocking....
Forget it being a deterrent....does such evil deserve to be fed and watered for the rest of his life at our expense..?
What does that achieve?

Keep talking Imurg ?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

no. What I am saying is that YOB is getting a lot of grief over guns in the USA, a lot of what people are carrying in the USA he disagrees with. What I am saying is that if a low life piece of scum like Dempster tried that in the USA.He would now be toast. That old woman could of been my mum, yours, Wolfs or LPs. If he had been blown away, no one would of shed a tear.



Keep talking Imurg ?

No he wouldn’t be toast if he done it, got away with it and then captured later.

You’re saying everyone in the USA who did what he did gets caught and shot before or during the act.

Good effort on trying the emotional bit!

 

[Tashyboy]

I don’t care about him or his rights, I don’t believe in the death penalty for all murders so if I’m for keeping them alive and in prison, make them suffer.

But the whole point of when people are sent down is rehabilitation, rehabilitation rehabilitation. To ensure these people know the error of there ways and don’t reoffend again. Where does suffer come into it.

 

[Tashyboy]

No he wouldn’t be toast if he done it, got away with it and then captured later.

You’re saying everyone in the USA who did what he did gets caught and shot before or during the act.

No I am saying he may well of thought twice before he did what he did.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

No I am saying he may well of thought twice before he did what he did.

And their murder rate is way way above ours and they have millions of more guns and the death penalty in some states and the murders continue.

If there’s ever a Country not to use as an example when discussing the death penalty, I’d suggest it’s the USA.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

But the whole point of when people are sent down is rehabilitation, rehabilitation rehabilitation. To ensure these people know the error of there ways and don’t reoffend again. Where does suffer come into it.

Solitary, no TV’s luxuries etc, no rehabilitation, he pays his debt by working in some capacity in prison.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

We have polarised opinions, which are mostly entrenched and won’t be swayed by debate.

Let’s respect that other people’s opinions may differ and keep it nice.
It’s ok to disagree, it’s not ok to have a go at someone, because they disagree

 

[Wolf]

no. What I am saying is that YOB is getting a lot of grief over guns in the USA, a lot of what people are carrying in the USA he disagrees with. What I am saying is that if a low life piece of scum like Dempster tried that in the USA.He would now be toast. That old woman could of been my mum, yours, Wolfs or LPs. If he had been blown away, no one would of shed a tear.



Keep talking Imurg ?

Why have I been brought into this when I haven't commented on the thread before...

Id kindly ask not to be mentioned in a manner that assumes emotional attachment towards had this been my family as my views are my own and not for assumptions to be made.

I do not condone the death penalty in any form and have spoken out as such on other threads. Justice nor deterrent is served in the killing of the perpetrators. I could go deeper into my views of why and other reasons that pertain to the carrying out of it, but I never asked to be brought into the thread in the first place...

 

[Jamesbrown]

lethal injection is hardly a deterrent. I wouldn’t mind going out that way on a bad day for free.
Need hanging, guillotines, firing squad, brutes with machetes chop chop chopping and they’re the softest options I can think of that would deter.
This man requires the same to him with razor blades.

 

[User20204]

LP says its not a deterrent, I would disagree, just my opinion

Not a single life would be saved by the re-introducing of the death penalty.

We are supposed to be a civilised society, what kind of civilised society willing takes the life of another human being.

Don't get me wrong, these type of people would be no loss to society but society has to be above such an inhumane act.

 

[clubchamp98]

All he needs is a Tupperware box in his cell with a cyanide pill and a glass of water .
He can choose himself when he’s had enough of solitary confinement.

 

[Slime]

Multiple studies been done by many people

it also costs someone more to stay in death row and then act out the death penalty than it does to have someone in either solitary confinement.

There are still many cases of miscarriage of justices where innocents are being found guilty only to be cleared later

The bastard pleaded guilty!
1. He should be executed within 24 hours, no need to go on death row.
2. Where would the miscarriage of justice be?