Reduced Subscription for Armed Forces...convince me please.

[Dodger]

Should Police,Ambulance,Fire, Coastguard etc not get the same treatment?

All can easily 'die doing their jobs' while keeping us all safe....

Dodger, even though we've not met, I like what I know of you and find your unswerving stance on subjects to be generally a good read.

I think you are wrong on this one though. You sound incredibly petty with your original post. It sounds like a truck load of sour grapes. What skin is it off your nose if a soldier pays a lower rate than you? Are you that tight that you would begrudge it, should the situation arise?

And to answer your point, I would support our emergency services getting a discount at their local club. The RNLI volunteers too! And nurses! Definitely nurses!

Thank you Snelly but where in my thread have I said I don't agree with it?

 

[surefire]

Should Police,Ambulance,Fire, Coastguard etc not get the same treatment?

All can easily 'die doing their jobs' while keeping us all safe....

So what are you saying:

a) The people above also take risks so should get discount?

b) The people above also take risks, so the forces shouldn't get discount?

I am asking the for brigade their opinion on it.

I am asking to be convinced so convince me on the merits.

So just stirring then?

I don't think the for brigade need to convince you on the merits.
Just like with any other charitable offering you may make, if others don't agree with the cause, you don't need to justify or convince others of the merit you see in something.

 

[surefire]

And to answer your point, I would support our emergency services getting a discount at their local club. The RNLI volunteers too! And nurses! Definitely nurses!

In fact I think golf clubs need far more nurses!

 

[Snelly]

You haven't. I am asking you that question in a round about way in my last post.

 

[Snelly]

And to answer your point, I would support our emergency services getting a discount at their local club. The RNLI volunteers too! And nurses! Definitely nurses!

In fact I think golf clubs need far more nurses!

Only two certainties in life. Death...........and nurses!

 

[bladeplayer]

I think it's great that the armed forces get a discount on golf club fees and I would support them getting a better rate on just about anything. They are our front line of defence and could die doing their jobs. I know a lot of people in the military and they are fantastic people that deserve the support of the nation.

What I find most surprising about this thread is that it would be posted in the first place and similarly, why anyone would feel aggrieved about the fact that our soldiers get a discount on something.

I think you all sound extremely mean spirited, petty and avaricious to think that this is an issue that is even worth debate, never mind actually supporting the argument.


We should support our armed forces in any way that we can in my view.

Well said that man!

Firstly im irish and our army go home at 4pm , when our navy abandon ship they scrape their knees of the jetty .... BUT.. Can i just ask didnt these guys sign up for this line of work ? nobody forced them to take the jobs? army get tour of duty , police ambulance & fire are frontline every day . if they are like our guys they have non contributry pensions that they can claim once 25year service is up , thats retired on pension at 43 for some of them , It doesnt bother me if they get free or discounted golf , it wont affect me in anyway, but as asked how about the home frontliners that we the ordinary people rely on , on a day to day basis, Give it to them all equaly i say.. Please do not think this is meant in anyway against your armed forces , i would hate it if one of my family had to do their jobs , god bless to them one & all & hopefuly they get home safe ..

 

[jammag]

Its a job that people have respect for and its a small perk of the job that people like to give discounts for those fighting for our country we live in.

Agree or not agree it makes naf all difference in the end because its someones business who is offering it and its at there discression. If they think what you do in a career or voluntary is worth a discount they will offer it.

 

[Dodger]

Should Police,Ambulance,Fire, Coastguard etc not get the same treatment?

All can easily 'die doing their jobs' while keeping us all safe....

So what are you saying:

a) The people above also take risks so should get discount?

b) The people above also take risks, so the forces shouldn't get discount?

I am asking the for brigade their opinion on it.

I am asking to be convinced so convince me on the merits.

So just stirring then?

I don't think the for brigade need to convince you on the merits.
Just like with any other charitable offering you may make, if others don't agree with the cause, you don't need to justify or convince others of the merit you see in something.

Woooow woooow woooow!If I was 'stirring' as you put it you would know about it!

I can see why it is offered but to me it has serious flaws,flaws of which I have mentioned in the thread but as the title says 'convince me'.

At the moment I am not being convinced,it seems the Forces(and this can be a pen pusher up to a guy on the front line)get it because they can....if that is so, I fail to understand why it isn't offered to those people I have mentioned?

Anyone care to tell me why this is the case?

I'm genuinely interested....

 

[Robobum]

Service personnel play a big part in a lot of communities and are actively encouraged to play as active a part in their area as possible.

One of the reasons that we were given a discount rate when I was "in" was because paying a full sub for the year and then being sent out of area for 6 months wasn't very attractive. Hence the discounted rate (or at least one reason)

Full membership @ Trevose for £175 a year was bang tidy.

 

[elliottlale]

Anyone out there care to convince me why members of the Armed Forces should receive a reduction on their membership to a golf club or on green fees for that matter.

Why should I pay £500 a year and they get it for £250??

Go on....someone convince me please.

Excuse me?!?!im a member of the royal navy and have been for over 8 years!!never had a discounted membership to any golf club! had discounted green fees at china fleet gc (5 mins drive from the largst naval base in western europe!)
why do younger people get discounted memberships?!
at any time, i can be called away on deployment and can be away for upto 9 months straight!
maybe give it a try some time and find out what its like before you start making stupid posts!!!

 

[CMAC]

The armed forces are our champions!

They do it so you don't have to!!!!

I'm all for any emergency service also getting discounts, they take a sh1t load of flack in their chosen line of duty and get a decent salary but not a great salary and certainly not a salary reflective of the work and conditions they have to do.

We should support themk in ANY way we can

 

[Shaunmg]

I’ve got the greatest respect for our soldiers, and have no problem given them consessions, but I have a better idea. Instead of cheap golf, lets bring them all home safely, where they are not going to get blown to bits by IEDs while they are fighting for BP, Exxon mobile and Shell, and conning them and us them into believing it’s actually the British public they are defending in Afghanistan.

That’s not too political is it?

 

[elliottlale]

[quote ]
To me in the modern world, the police, ambulance staff and fire service guys are under more pressure more of the time and may be more entitled. That said, none of these jobs are exactly breadline minimum wage.

[/QUOTE]

i wouldnt say so!! police, ambluance, fire all get to go home after a days work. when im away, im on a ship for upto 9 months at any one time.i literally leave, 9 months down the line get to see my family and friends and girlfriend. im not complaining about that part of the job, im very much used to it. but to say they are more under pressure is a comment made by not really knowing the ins and outs (my girlfriend is a medic that works in a hospital in plymouth by the way)

 

[Chris1980]

Def agree that the emergency services should get some sort of discount. I know lots of people work long hours but certain areas of the emergency services work extremely long hours and under stressful conditions ie doctors police etc.

 

[stevie_r]

Should Police,Ambulance,Fire, Coastguard etc not get the same treatment?

All can easily 'die doing their jobs' while keeping us all safe....

Not really, how many firemen have died carrying out their duties in the last few years? The answer is not that many, their job is perceived to be much more dangerous than it actually is.

And another thing, can you confirm the last time the firemen and ambulance crews covered for the army on operational tours overseas whilst the army went on strike?

 

[Mungoscorner]

I've a better idea,let them have Free membership.

 

[Dodger]

Anyone out there care to convince me why members of the Armed Forces should receive a reduction on their membership to a golf club or on green fees for that matter.

Why should I pay £500 a year and they get it for £250??

Go on....someone convince me please.

Excuse me?!?!im a member of the royal navy and have been for over 8 years!!never had a discounted membership to any golf club! had discounted green fees at china fleet gc (5 mins drive from the largst naval base in western europe!)
why do younger people get discounted memberships?!
at any time, i can be called away on deployment and can be away for upto 9 months straight!
maybe give it a try some time and find out what its like before you start making stupid posts!!!

What part of the post do you perceive as being 'stupid'?

I think that a reduction can be justified to those who are away for long periods of time but the bit I am struggling with is why the man who works in an office at base and never leaves that base should also get the huge reduction and at the same time these reductions are not offered to the people in the jobs that I have quoted that in my opinion should also get the opportunity to get reductions,Police etc etc.

In answer to your question re younger people,they are offered discounted fees as these are under represented age groups in many golf clubs,an area that needs built up to ensure the continues to grow in the years down the line.

Some great post coming in by the way...

 

[richy]

My brother in law is a copper and he gets ridiculously discounted rates at not only golf courses but gyms and health clubs

 

[sweatysock41]

[quote ]
To me in the modern world, the police, ambulance staff and fire service guys are under more pressure more of the time and may be more entitled. That said, none of these jobs are exactly breadline minimum wage.

i wouldnt say so!! police, ambluance, fire all get to go home after a days work. when im away, im on a ship for upto 9 months at any one time.i literally leave, 9 months down the line get to see my family and friends and girlfriend. im not complaining about that part of the job, im very much used to it. but to say they are more under pressure is a comment made by not really knowing the ins and outs (my girlfriend is a medic that works in a hospital in plymouth by the way)

[/QUOTE]

As an ex CPO I believe you are leaving out some information there - when you are at sea you do not pay for food or accommodation that your equivalent at a shore establishment would pay, there is also what they call the X factor in your basic saslary to account for the risks that you have compared with a civilian doing a similar role.

Unless you are in a War/Combat zone you are not on alert the whole time. Although at sea you do get relaxation time and you do get time in port - at no time are you actually at sea for 9 months.
I served during 1st Gulf Crisis and had two deployments to that area afterwards so I do know what its like.

Those who think that the Armed Forces are badly paid compared to civilian life are somewhat misinformed. For example when I left after 20 years service I got a job doing almost exactly the same as I was doing in the service and the salary was about 60% of my Naval Salary. I just accepted that was the norm and that I had been adequately paid for any risk that may have arisen.

I understand the desire to support our servicemen and women and am fully behind that - but to give them discount is not in my opinion necessary.

If a club wants to make a gesture do something for the sevicemen and women who have suffered as a result of conflict.

 

[stevie_r]

I’ve got the greatest respect for our soldiers, and have no problem given them consessions, but I have a better idea. Instead of cheap golf, lets bring them all home safely, where they are not going to get blown to bits by IEDs while they are fighting for BP, Exxon mobile and Shell, and conning them and us them into believing it’s actually the British public they are defending in Afghanistan.

That’s not too political is it?

do you honestly think the average squaddy believes he is defending Britain whilst serving in Afghanistan?


why isn't there a rolling your eyes smiley?