Reduced Subscription for Armed Forces...convince me please.

[sev112]

i think you are being harsh on teh OP - he said, please tell me why you think it is valid, which is very different to saying he fundamentally disagrees.

I think it is a fair question to which those wholeheartedly supporting it shoudl say why you support it . The reasons may be perfectly valid and highly appropriate. But the replies to date have failed to do so, which is quite interesting.

By the way, i am generally in support of it as a principle, for those that have served in action. I would not support it for non-active service, but i would also support "active" (however you define that i dont know) police, fire, ambulance etc, and would certainly include nurses, and possibly secondary school teachers


What really gets my goat however is age based fees - i.e the up to 29 years old lot who get their membership for 30% !!!!!????? And they are all IT gurus who get padi loads more than me

 

[bozza]

I agree with sweatysock41 above.

 

[bobmac]

Has anyone wondered how many golf courses are run by ex Brigadiers/Wing commanders/Commodores?

 

[Dodger]

Has anyone wondered how many golf courses are run by ex Brigadiers/Wing commanders/Commodores?

No,never,why?

 

[stevie_r]

Has anyone wondered how many golf courses are run by ex Brigadiers/Wing commanders/Commodores?

No,never,why?

me neither, never gave it a seconds thought; however, now you have raised the question, I think the percentage would be spectacularly low

 

[stevie_r]

What really gets my goat however is age based fees - i.e the up to 29 years old lot who get their membership for 30% !!!!!????? And they are all IT gurus who get padi loads more than me

I fully agree - this must be the under-represented group alluded to by an earlier poster. Under represented as they choose not to play golf

 

[bobmac]

Has anyone wondered how many golf courses are run by ex Brigadiers/Wing commanders/Commodores?

No,never,why?

I wonder how many constitutions were written by ex serving officers in the past?
It might explain why servicemen get a discount at some clubs.

 

[AuburnWarrior]

Has anyone wondered how many golf courses are run by ex Brigadiers/Wing commanders/Commodores?

No,never,why?

I wonder how many constitutions were written by ex serving officers in the past?
It might explain why servicemen get a discount at some clubs.

Not necessarily officers. National service was in operation until 1960 - many of the vets at practicly every club will have served. Some will be in positions of power at the club.

The discount for armed forces personnel will continue then until the people in power don't have a link to the armed forces.

 

[Dodger]

Has anyone wondered how many golf courses are run by ex Brigadiers/Wing commanders/Commodores?

No,never,why?

I wonder how many constitutions were written by ex serving officers in the past?
It might explain why servicemen get a discount at some clubs.

The mind boggles.That surely is a theory plucked out from the sky Bob?

If it is not it bloody well should be.

 

[stevie_r]

Has anyone wondered how many golf courses are run by ex Brigadiers/Wing commanders/Commodores?

No,never,why?

I wonder how many constitutions were written by ex serving officers in the past?
It might explain why servicemen get a discount at some clubs.

Currently looking for a new club to join for next season and in the process have looked at the web sites of most of the golf courses in Inverclyde, West Dunbartonshire, Renfrewshire and the greater Glasgow area. On none of these, not one, have I seen any mention of a reduced subscription or wavering of joining fee for Service Personal.

 

[bobmac]

The mind boggles.That surely is a theory plucked out from the sky Bob?

It was.
I spent 22 years in the RAF and never got discount at any of the clubs I played at.

 

[sev112]

I wonder how many constitutions were written by ex serving officers in the past?
It might explain why servicemen get a discount at some clubs.

I dont care about the fees, but this would certainly explain the seriously naff dress codes we are forced to wear. I mean tailored shorts and white knee length socks - who would come up with something like that other than a retired wind commander

 

[AuburnWarrior]

a retired wind commander

Was he in charge of the flatulant squadron?

 

[stevie_r]

a retired wind commander

Was he in charge of the flatulant squadron?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

oh... and employees of the NHS get serious discount at many many places that you would not imagine - including at some golf courses.

Is that also wrong?

Pray tell. I've worked at the Royal Berks for nearly 5 years and got diddly free or reduced

 

[Dodger]

a retired wind commander

Was he in charge of the flatulant squadron?

 

[TonyN]

Interesting post this.

Dodger, I get your post. I think the majority have misinterprited the question.

I think mostly it's just a good will gesture as its readily assumed, if you are serving in the armed forces, your away alot of the time, therefor, might not get to use the club as often as bob the builder, or Harry the plumber.

I also get your gripe about Lance Corporal jones who is incharge of payroll, but where do they draw the line? How do you convince the club your entitled to discount based on the job you do?

I'm not really fussed what the club charges armed forces. I appreciate what those people do, when they make the choice to join, they do so knowing that one day, they may lose there life defending ours. Its a small reward I guess for the courage they show.

BUT... I know a Policeman, who quite recently served every single day of the 'toxteth riots' on the front line in the most gruelling of conditions, sometimes working 19-20 hours per day with only 8 hours rests between shifts. He doesn't get discount at golf clubs! In fact, he can't afford his subs anymore!

 

[stevie_r]

BUT... I know a Policeman, who quite recently served every single day of the 'toxteth riots' on the front line in the most gruelling of conditions, sometimes working 19-20 hours per day with only 8 hours rests between shifts. He doesn't get discount at golf clubs! In fact, he can't afford his subs anymore!

Given the well publicised impotence of the police for those few days (not 6 months) I'm really struggling to generate any sympathy here

 

[TonyN]

BUT... I know a Policeman, who quite recently served every single day of the 'toxteth riots' on the front line in the most gruelling of conditions, sometimes working 19-20 hours per day with only 8 hours rests between shifts. He doesn't get discount at golf clubs! In fact, he can't afford his subs anymore!

Given the well publicised impotence of the police for those few days (not 6 months) I'm really struggling to generate any sympathy here

How mis-informed you are then! Labling all Police Forces or even Officers as Impotent. Do you care to elaborate on this?

I know a Serviceman who was locked up 2 years ago, this was not publicised. Are all servicemen criminals?

 

[EZprophet]

If the armed forces were there by conscription and forced to be there then there could be an argument made that discounts etc. made sense but, as it is, it is their choice to join the forces and put their lives at risk, so of course the discount doesn't "make sense".

That doesn't mean that it isn't a nice gesture though and I for one don't have a problem with it at all. It is the kind of gesture that is made with very good intentions with peoples hearts in the right place, but unfortunately the logic is flawed.

People forget that while it is great that people join the armed forces, they wouldn't do the job for free... and for those that say that they aren't paid enough for what they do, unfortunately, thats the way supply and demand works. If their wages were ACTUALLY too low, then they wouldn't be able to get people to sign up for the forces in the first place, as some people who were interested in joining would look for a job elsewhere.

The men and women of the armed forces are without doubt brave, good people but they are no better (or worse) than our police force, firemen and nurses...