Doon frae Troon
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From the man who persistently says that Celtic and Rangers dominate Scottish football.:lol:
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From the man who persistently says that Celtic and Rangers dominate Scottish football.:lol:
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That’s because they do - simple as that , do you really think that they don’t ? I know you struggle at times but surely you are not that daft to think that they don’t dominate Scottish football and have done for decades
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Over the same period six clubs have won the FA Cup whilst four (inc: Leicester's one-off) have won the Premier League.
So it is true to say that Cup competitions tend to produce a wider range of winners.
GreiginFife
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Even if you count the Scottish Cup, I am unsure how you can claim the biggot brothers don't or haven't dominated Scottish Football and either will continue to do so.
The cup has been contested 131 times or there abouts, 25 teams have won it. Rangers and Celtic share 70 of those wins. 23 other teams have 61 wins COMBINED, now for those in lala land (Troon to everyone else) 70 is a bigger number than 61. 37 Celtic wins (38 by the end of this season) and 33 for Rangers with the nearest alsoran being Queens Park with a paltry (by comparison) 10 wins.
Now I'm not sure how you define dominance but add those FACTS (as you like to let them get in the way of a good story it seems) to the league dominance then what does that spell out to you?
Doon frae Troon
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I thought Arsenal and Chelsea dominated during that period 60% win rate compared to the Ugly Sisters 50%. [better add a winky man to that
]Doon frae Troon
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We were talking about the last 10 years. When Rangers and Celtic combined only won 50% of the finals.
50% is not domination in my la la land.
League is a different story, I am not disputing that.
Your ancient records seems to include the original Rangers team......Do their wins still count.?
Surely the original discussion was about their dominance of Scottish football in general. Not just one format? Id say 5 cups and 10 leagues in 10 years is as dominant as you'll get elsewhere.....
Bunkermagnet
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So 2 teams out of 12 winning 50% over 10 years isnt "domination"? 2 winning 5 against 8 winning the remaining 5 looks like domination to me.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
It was, but I was posting about the last 10 years Scottish cup results when there were seven different winners in ten years.
Highlighting that it was not all Celtic and Rangers dominated.
Some folk have jumped to their own agenda [weird that :lol:] from my reply to LP.
Most people acknowledge that cups can be more random. Not always, but i'd imagine that there have been more separate cup winners in all top leagues (and Scottish) than there have league winners. So whilst you raised a point, i don't see it's relevance to the discussion.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Celtic and Rangers have dominated Scottish football since the mid 60's with only 3 (maybe 4) titles going elsewhere since Celtic began their first 9 in a row run.
Anyone who thinks different is deluded, in the same way that anyone thinks the EPL has 5 genuine contenders for their title
Anyone who thinks different is deluded, in the same way that anyone thinks the EPL has 5 genuine contenders for their title
HampshireHog
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Rangers folly is BT sport viewers gain.
Hope he is more inspiring in the dressing room than he is as a pundit.
Great player, insipid pundit, untried manager.
Hope he is more inspiring in the dressing room than he is as a pundit.
Great player, insipid pundit, untried manager.
Not necessarily, this is well before Roman and some top players came on a free so you could pay a top wage as you had no initial purchase.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
You are kinda making my point, Rangers cannot afford top players wages regardless of any fee. The annual turnover at Rangers is £30m and are losing money year on year already without paying top cash.
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The biggest problem will be the expctations from the fans.
The other worry is he'll be learning on the job andim sure those rangers fans won't be so sympathetic should results not go there way.
The other worry is he'll be learning on the job andim sure those rangers fans won't be so sympathetic should results not go there way.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
I loved the comment from some alleged pundit who stated 'Gerrard must make an immediate impact at Rangers like Rogers did with Celtic.'
If I remember correctly Rogers 'early impact' was a CL qualifier defeat from a team from Lichtenstein.
If I remember correctly Rogers 'early impact' was a CL qualifier defeat from a team from Lichtenstein.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
You don't remember correctly
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
:lol: You are sooooooooo right, another tax exile zone Gibraltar. :whoo:
SwingsitlikeHogan
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...and the only reason Rangers got 'big name' players in the late 1980's was English clubs were banned from Europe following Heysel and they spent money they didn't actually have - with players on inventive contracts - allegedly - to afford them.
These days - well I have no idea where King is finding money from...
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Major investment on its way, £6m investment from a rights issue :rofl:
Gerarrd got paid more than that annually at Liverpool :rofl:
Gerarrd got paid more than that annually at Liverpool :rofl:
