Railways, Underground and Unions
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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Well these nurses do nursing as a vocation...so they do it for the love not the money...don't they?
Well...back when my Mrs started her nursing in the late 70s she had done her training in Nottingham QM Hospital, living in nurses accommodation and eating in accommodation canteen and paying very little for it; getting her training free and through working - and getting paid for the work. She left training and worked in Moorfields, staying in cheap nurses accommodation in Covent Garden. She had an OK/decent standard of living for a newly qualified nurse and very enjoyable early years, making great nursing friends through living together, many whom she still keeps close touch with and we go on holiday with. Most importantly she had no debt built up through and as a result of her training to pay and so she did not need to be paid a King's Ransom for her work, work she loved and was totally committed to. She loved her job - and stayed in the NHS for almost 40yrs.
She looks at modern nursing in despair at the stress and criticism she never or rarely faced, and has great sympathy to the nurses lot and their fight for 'much better'. And let's not forget that for nurses carrying training debt to pay off, any increase nurses get may take them over the threshold to start repaying, and so could lose much if not all of that increase, and for all will increase the amount they have to pay back.
And as mentioned...she is incandescent with anger in respect of the Putin comments - and that is not opinion, that is fact.
Tashyboy
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https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiQi_jvxuL7AhV0gP0HHYCqDKQQFnoECA8QAQ&url=https://news.sky.com/story/strikes-every-day-before-christmas-which-industries-are-affected-and-why-12754663&usg=AOvVaw2Hwdw_0X4wkvV2jfeo9tnl
This is not a bad little read re where the country is re strikes. And I am sure there is quite a few others that have recently threatened to strike as well.
The bottom line is why are they all thinking the same. If it was just the railways. There could be an arguement they are greedy. But there not. For the nurses to go on strike, that’s massive. For an industry that would never strike because it would affect our patients. I don’t know what it is, but a straw has broke a camels back. Everything is rising re bills etc. wages are falling. It don’t take a genius to figure it out.
At the same time, an MPs wages have gone up 19K in 12 years. Plus expense.
This is not a bad little read re where the country is re strikes. And I am sure there is quite a few others that have recently threatened to strike as well.
The bottom line is why are they all thinking the same. If it was just the railways. There could be an arguement they are greedy. But there not. For the nurses to go on strike, that’s massive. For an industry that would never strike because it would affect our patients. I don’t know what it is, but a straw has broke a camels back. Everything is rising re bills etc. wages are falling. It don’t take a genius to figure it out.
At the same time, an MPs wages have gone up 19K in 12 years. Plus expense.
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WGCRider
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Maybe to cheer her up you could ask her to clarify if the person that made that statement was the same person that claimed roughly a nurses annual salary in expenses to heat his stables.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I couldn’t possibly comment but I might ask her…
2blue
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Sheesh.... thought you'd have steered clear of this thread
SwingsitlikeHogan
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…and what our postie tells us about the way they are being treated and the threats from management if they talk at about it in the media, or even to their public customers. And that is why he is striking. He loves his job, done it for 35yrs, but wants out. He’s had enough.
As it happens a few days ago I heard a retired OPG describe how Royal Mail management are requiring posties to de-prioritise personal mail, focusing on the commercial stuff. She was wondering how they could legally do this as delaying delivery of the ‘King’s Mail’ is illegal, and that is what RM management are doing. I mentioned this to my postie and he took a huge bundle of commercial mail out of his bag saying ’this is the stuff I’ve got to prioritise’.
As it happens a few days ago I heard a retired OPG describe how Royal Mail management are requiring posties to de-prioritise personal mail, focusing on the commercial stuff. She was wondering how they could legally do this as delaying delivery of the ‘King’s Mail’ is illegal, and that is what RM management are doing. I mentioned this to my postie and he took a huge bundle of commercial mail out of his bag saying ’this is the stuff I’ve got to prioritise’.
Tashyboy
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Why Ave had to bite me
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Fade and Die
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Why’s that then? I think he would know more about the devastation a union can cause to a sector than any of the wannabe Vic Spanner’s on these boards.
Banchory Buddha
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Certainly been a trend in Scotland for this to be the case, however the laughable attempts by the MSM to make it so -Kay Burley, idiot madeley and Gbeebies are particularly bad at it - in the case of the rail strikes is dreadful, but the gullible fall for it every time you see a vox pop
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Can LIV not take over the running of the trains, underground and buses?
Everyone would get paid more, and get more time to spend with their families!!!!
Oh, and be able to wear shorts to work!!
Everyone would get paid more, and get more time to spend with their families!!!!
Oh, and be able to wear shorts to work!!
Tashyboy
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The one things all these unions have in common was they had a national ballot. They have overwhelmingly voted for industrial action.
Tash never had a vote. He never had a say. He had six guys/strangers turn up on a Monday morning and say “ you don’t cross a Picket line” if you do you will be beaten and abused. Let’s just say Tash hates Bullies. They were told to say that from A Leader who had already called an illegal strike back in 69. He had learnt nothing. My hope one day is that Scargill is buried alongside Thatcher.
The common miner was shafted by left wing unions and a Tory government.
Fortunately todays unions seem a little More Switched on.
Best of luck to them
PS if anyone wants to hear a Tashyboy rant. Start a post on unions.
PJ87
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Yes the strike laws are so strict now
Now you need at least 50% turn out with 40% of that 50% voting in favour to be deemed legal
To put in perspective asleff mandate which they haven't used yet for the lul pension strike. They are sitting waiting
It's 90% turn out. 98% voting yes for strike action
That's a pretty huge mandate
However a no vote
doublebogey7
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Would they pay my housekeeper as well?Can LIV not take over the running of the trains, underground and buses?
Everyone would get paid more, and get more time to spend with their families!!!!
Oh, and be able to wear shorts to work!!
PJ87
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Always find tom Edwards a balanced view
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Deleted member 1418
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Yeah of course!
And don't forget your butler, footmen, cook, driver and gardener - can't discriminate against any of the household staff!!
theoneandonly
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More strikes announced over Christmas. Pnw will be losing his ?
PJ87
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Let's see what the next offer is
ATM we are at the stage that your house in on the market for 500k and someone has just offered 100k
2blue
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Due largely to Thatchers Scabs
PJ87
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Let's not go down name calling or making it political
The world evolves however unions make sure the common man / women don't get shafted along the way
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