spongebob59
Journeyman Pro
Mystery solved
Putters explained
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Crow
Crow Person
Excellent video, debunks a lot of the rubbish being talked about putters at the moment.
I think we adapt very quickly to any putter, at the end of the day they're all a weight on the end of a stick.
You "just" need to find the sweet spot, with a face square to the line and the with the right strength.
I think we adapt very quickly to any putter, at the end of the day they're all a weight on the end of a stick.
You "just" need to find the sweet spot, with a face square to the line and the with the right strength.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Interesting vid, thanks for sharing. I've still never tried one of these putters, he seems to suggest they are just another option to try rather than something that's better than what came before.
The most telling thing was near the end, the thing that would put me off, and Shiels has said it too in some of his reviews actually - that the centre-shafted "zero torque" putters rotate and deflect more when you hit the toe or heel. That's not ideal. Particularly since the last time I tried a centre-shafted putter all I could do was hit it out of the toe.
The most telling thing was near the end, the thing that would put me off, and Shiels has said it too in some of his reviews actually - that the centre-shafted "zero torque" putters rotate and deflect more when you hit the toe or heel. That's not ideal. Particularly since the last time I tried a centre-shafted putter all I could do was hit it out of the toe.
rulie
Head Pro
I didn't watch the video, but why do so many putters emulate/copy the Ping Anser that Karsten Solheim (an engineer) designed nearly 70 years ago? Because the weight is at the heel and the toe and that minimizes twisting(torque) on off centre strikes.
Hoganman1
Well-known member
Great point. I've been playing Anser type putters for decades. My gamer is a fifteen year old Odyssey. I also have a Scottie Cameron Newport type that is more than a decade old. It appears now most of the tour guys are playing mallets. I think Scheffler's putting really got better when he switched to a mallet. Putting is the strongest part of my game and I'm too old to switch.
rulie
Head Pro
Even the newer "mallets" are heel and toe weighted, as per Karsten's engineered design. I have an Odyssey 7, and it has heel and toe weighting. Taylormade Spyders have similar weighting. As "they" say, it's not rocket science, but it is good engineering!
(I also have an Odyssey 990 which I use and an original Ping Anser which I practice with at home)
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Got part way through before I got bored. My point still stands that no putter will twist in the stroke if you have a grip that is stronger than a dead beetle
Crow
Crow Person
Which is also why it's ridiculous to call an Anser style putter a blade, it's a cavity back.
KenL
Tour Rookie
Don’t think that it true. A small deflection is all that is needed to miss, or to hole it if you were going to miss!
KenL
Tour Rookie
Is it a game improver or a super game improver?
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
Interesting vid, thanks for sharing. I've still never tried one of these putters, he seems to suggest they are just another option to try rather than something that's better than what came before.
The most telling thing was near the end, the thing that would put me off, and Shiels has said it too in some of his reviews actually - that the centre-shafted "zero torque" putters rotate and deflect more when you hit the toe or heel. That's not ideal. Particularly since the last time I tried a centre-shafted putter all I could do was hit it out of the toe.
That sounds like more of a ball to your eyes alignment / your putting stroke style problem.
According to Dave Pelz centre shafted putters are best suited to players that have a straight back/ straight forward stroke.
I made the switch decades ago and would not buy anything else.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
How is this deflection going to happen if you are holding the club with any sort of pressure at all? Would need a strong gust of wind or a small child grabbing the club
KenL
Tour Rookie
Do a little research…How is this deflection going to happen if you are holding the club with any sort of pressure at all? Would need a strong gust of wind or a small child grabbing the club
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I only used it for a month, didn't have time to get used to it really. If you think about it, someone who's only ever used heel-shafted putters, using a centre-shafted for the first time, you would expect to hit a few out of the toe - as that's where the middle of it used to be, in relation to the shaft.
D
Deleted member 35927
Guest
Jeez that was a boring video.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Times like this I enjoy the 'x1.2' speed function on YouTube.
D
Deleted member 35927
Guest
I watched about 10 mins and gave up.Times like this I enjoy the 'x1.2' speed function on YouTube.
Hoganman1
Well-known member
I agree. A blade putter would be the Wilson 8802, Wilson 8813, the Spalding Cash-In or the Acushnet Bullseye. Those models are not around much anymore. I think the younger generation incorrectly started calling the Anser type putters blades to distinguish them from the mallets. Cavity backs is probably more accurate. It took me awhile to switch from my 8813 to an Anser. Today I putt with an older 'Anser type" Odyssey. The Spider type putters look weird to me. Obviously, these newer mallets work because the best players in the world are using them.
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Deleted member 36742
Guest
I agree that they are increasingly rare but I still have both an 8802 and a Bullseye dating from the 1980's.
Every now and then I take one or other of them out and thoroughly enjoy the experience.
Just not enough for either to permanently replace my more hi-tech modern mallet.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
I watched and listened very attentively throughout. I think I understood it all. Don't disagree with anything.
But there is something essential to putting that does not feature at all in the video.
"The putter that is right for you" he says near the end.
That putter is going to be one that you will use for a very long time then. It has to be - or else it was/is not the right one for you.
No mention of practicing a lot.
Kind of gives an impression that a magic stick exists with which you will be immediately successful.
Putting is a skill that has to be learned whatever stick you choose to have.
It takes a lot of time and practice to be a good putter.
Vast majority of recreational golfers will have no desire or inkling to do the amount of putting practice it takes to be a very skilful putter.
The stick does not matter as much as the practice and the learning/developing/improving that putting skill.
Time - not money.
But there is something essential to putting that does not feature at all in the video.
"The putter that is right for you" he says near the end.
That putter is going to be one that you will use for a very long time then. It has to be - or else it was/is not the right one for you.
No mention of practicing a lot.
Kind of gives an impression that a magic stick exists with which you will be immediately successful.
Putting is a skill that has to be learned whatever stick you choose to have.
It takes a lot of time and practice to be a good putter.
Vast majority of recreational golfers will have no desire or inkling to do the amount of putting practice it takes to be a very skilful putter.
The stick does not matter as much as the practice and the learning/developing/improving that putting skill.
Time - not money.
