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Public sector strikes

hovis said:
Why do you think they have another job? £1580 a month after pension payment ent alot of money. Who wants to work on a day off!
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I don't think, I know they do. The way their shifts work in means they can work elsewhere. £1580 is a lot of money for some people btw, but personally I agree about not wanting to graft on days off myself, it's just ones I know do.
 
c1973 said:
I don't think, I know they do. The way their shifts work in means they can work elsewhere. £1580 is a lot of money for some people btw, but personally I agree about not wanting to graft on days off myself, it's just ones I know do.
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£1580 is a joke for a high risk job. And before you say "why do it then" because i do it because its a good cause
 
hovis said:
Why do you think they have another job? £1580 a month after pension payment ent alot of money. Who wants to work on a day off!
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It's a lot more money than a lot of military people and they are unable to fund with other jobs

And when qualified they get 30 grand a year basic then loads of overtime on top
 
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hovis said:
£1580 is a joke for a high risk job. And before you say "why do it then" because i do it because its a good cause
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I'm not saying firemen do or don't deserve a better wage, just that it's a lot for some.

Anyway, it's not all high risk (I accept it can be) charging into fires, there's a fair bit of down time as well.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It's a lot more money than a lot of military people and they are unable to fund with other jobs

And when qualified they get 30 grand a year basic then loads of overtime on top
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Phil, i think it is beyond disgraceful what service men get but like me i dont know any military guys that are in it for the money. Just angers me when you have a job where people dodge bullets and get a pittance and some fat mp who was probably bullied at school earns 10x their wage and has the cheek to say "we can't afford to pay them more. Anyway I'm off to eat my breakfast and claim £35 for it"

And as for overtime, i wish. Earned £900 in overtime last financial year.
Also not 30k its 28.9 with £320 a month pension
 
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hovis said:
Phil, i think it is beyond disgraceful what service men get but like me i dont know any military guys that are in it for the money. Just angers me when you have a job where people dodge bullets and get a pittance and some fat mp who was probably bullied at school earns 10x their wage and has the cheek to say "we can't afford to pay them more. Anyway I'm off to eat my breakfast and claim £35 for it"

And as for overtime, i wish. Earned £900 in overtime last financial year.
Also not 30k its 28.9 with £320 a month pension
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Even at 29K and the ability to get overtime and also bolster that with a part time job a fireman is in a hell of a lot better position than most military people and also other workers - it really did annoy me when the fireman went on strike and they were covered by people on less money without the ability to strike and without the ability to get overtime and haven't had a pay rise in nearly 5 years.

So whilst I agree on the age I will never ever agree on fireman constantly striking over pay
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So whilst I agree on the age I will never ever agree on fireman constantly striking over pay
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Your preaching to the converted phil. I have seen active service my self. Even as a low life "tanky"

Strike from our part are purely pension related. Might be stuff coming up about swapping fire engines for these stupid vans
 
Surely you know what salary you'll be on when joining the armed forces & fire brigade :confused:
And the rest of the country is on it's arse so try not to feel too hard done by.
 
Pin-seeker said:
Surely you know what salary you'll be on when joining the armed forces & fire brigade :confused:
And the rest of the country is on it's arse so try not to feel too hard done by.
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People dont become military, fire, paramedics, nurse's etc for the money. But when the government take, take, take from you and say "oh well, I'm off to buy a £2000 duck house with your money dont take it personally" i do
 
Going back on track, I'm quite surprised that the Unions haven't been agitating for national general strikes across the board against the austerity measures. It's not just public sector workers who are in Unions and many private sector workers must be feeling the pinch also. I'm not saying I'd agree with it or not, but I'm surprised nonetheless.

Do you think there could be pressure from Labour heavyweights to keep them in check as they would have trouble supporting this but couldn't condone it either? Or do the Unions realise, for the moment at least, there isn't enough public support for it?
 
c1973 said:
Going back on track, I'm quite surprised that the Unions haven't been agitating for national general strikes across the board against the austerity measures. It's not just public sector workers who are in Unions and many private sector workers must be feeling the pinch also. I'm not saying I'd agree with it or not, but I'm surprised nonetheless.

Do you think there could be pressure from Labour heavyweights to keep them in check as they would have trouble supporting this but couldn't condone it either? Or do the Unions realise, for the moment at least, there isn't enough public support for it?
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One thing i think its safe to say....david cameron and his clowns ent going to win another term
 
As a ex local authority employee who naively went on strike in 1973 and got 5 shillings a week of a rise after 17 weeks !!!

. I don't think we ever recovered the loss at 5 shillings a week.

Strikes are not the answer, the local authority don't lose any money but the workers do.

Work to rule and get paid your wages IMHO.
 
hovis said:
One thing i think its safe to say....david cameron and his clowns ent going to win another term
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To be honest I think they will. As we are having an economic recovery, and to quote Clinton, it's the economy stupid. And I'm not sure that Milliband/Labour is trusted by enough people to run the economy.
 
Hacker Khan said:
To be honest I think they will. As we are having an economic recovery, and to quote Clinton, it's the economy stupid. And I'm not sure that Milliband/Labour is trusted by enough people to run the economy.
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That's the problem I have with voting right now - there is not one person or party I would want to vote for , don't trusting of them.
 
williamalex1 said:
As a ex local authority employee who naively went on strike in 1973 and got 5 shillings a week of a rise after 17 weeks !!!

. I don't think we ever recovered the loss at 5 shillings a week.

Strikes are not the answer, the local authority don't lose any money but the workers do.

Work to rule and get paid your wages IMHO.
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Im inclined to agree. I hate striking and really hurts my banl balance especially when i can't see it achieving anything. apart from an extra days golf :-) sod that picket line stuff, I've got 18 to play
 
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