Provisional(s)

[bobmac]

According to the OP the kid knew this but was told otherwise by the adults.

Whatever

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Whatever

It says in the OP the kid wanted to play his first ball and was told not to.

 

[Swango1980]

What this thread highlights is that we're sending junior golfers out to play competitions - under a very complex rules system, without enough support.

The difference between the way some junior comps are run here, and the experiences we had in Spain are night and day.

We've learnt this from this one specific incident?

Is this a more common issue, where 10 year old golfers are frequently being disqualified because they are getting poor advice from adults, adults who have no authorisation to be giving rules?

It would be interesting to hear from people from other clubs, as to how their Junior program and competitions work, how they are supported as they play and whether they have to DQ a lot of juniors for getting dodgy advice.

 

[Mel Smooth]

We've learnt this from this one specific incident?

Is this a more common issue, where 10 year old golfers are frequently being disqualified because they are getting poor advice from adults, adults who have no authorisation to be giving rules?

It would be interesting to hear from people from other clubs, as to how their Junior program and competitions work, how they are supported as they play and whether they have to DQ a lot of juniors for getting dodgy advice.

I’ve already said it has hapoened to my lad as well. He attempted to play a ball in a difficult lie, couldn’t make contact so took an unplayable. Counted the missed shot, and the penalty of course.
The parents of one of the other kids in the group told him he was disqualified for doing so.

The point is, when juniors are going out in comps, they should have a clear point of contact for rules queries, and they should all be made aware before teeing off.
In the comps Jamie played in Spain, kids couldn’t have caddies, parents and spectators had to maintain 50 metres from the players, and they had referees out on the course in buggies to help out.
We don’t always take our junior golf seriously enough here.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

I’ve already said it has hapoened to my lad as well. He attempted to play a ball in a difficult lie, couldn’t make contact so took an unplayable. Counted the missed shot, and the penalty of course.
The parents of one of the other kids in the group told him he was disqualified for doing so.

The point is, when juniors are going out in comps, they should have a clear point of contact for rules queries, and they should all be made aware before teeing off.
In the comps Jamie played in Spain, kids couldn’t have caddies, parents and spectators had to maintain 50 metres from the players, and they had referees out on the course in buggies to help out.
We don’t always take our junior golf seriously enough here.

A lot of people in this country think of juniors as nothing more than a nuisance.

We don’t even have a junior knockout or league team year. Apparently there is no one to organise it. This is the first club I have been a member at that has multiple full time paid employees to run it.

 

[tobybarker]

Just caught up with this interesting scenario. Put aside all the 10 year old player stuff, it is irrelevant, the player was simply advised badly by another person.

Short answer is: player played a wrong ball (provisionals automatically became wrong balls when the original was found inside the 3 minutes). In stroke play, if wrong ball is not corrected prior to hitting from the next tee, ruling is DQ. It is that simple, no other issues come into it.

This was stated some time ago... We've moved on!

 

[Imurg]

Although this case is, the same scenario could be applied to a new adult golfer...bowing to the "knowledge " of more experienced players..
A good reason to have a lessons on basic rules, followed by an assessment, before entering competitions
And, yes, it takes time and effort from all sides which is why it'll never happen..
But wouldn't it save a situation like this from happening....?

 

[Deleted member 29109]

I’d be all for introducing the license system they have in Germany!

 

[rulefan]

I’d be all for introducing the license system they have in Germany!

And in other parts of Europe also.