bobmac
Major Champion
But the rules only exist for the people, the game does not use them
(At least the 2019 version were a big step forward)
And written by the people
Provisional or not?
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And written by the people
rulie
Head Pro
Then people should read the Rules, not relying on hearsay and past editions.But the rules only exist for the people, the game does not use them
(At least the 2019 version were a big step forward)
Colin L
Tour Winner
And speaking of past editions, the Golf Monthly website is still showing videos based on pre-2019 rules. 
https://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/videos/rules/rules-of-golf-ball-at-rest-moved
https://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/videos/rules/rules-golf-practiceon-the-course
https://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/videos/rules/rules-of-golf-ball-at-rest-moved
https://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/videos/rules/rules-golf-practiceon-the-course
Swinglowandslow
Well-known member
Surely this situation could be taken advantage of. ( I'm not suggesting it was in this instance. Below is a hypothetical scenario)
Suppose someone decides that it looks like where "his" ball has been found is in a very bad place, so plays( or has already played) a provisionally which is in a very good place. If, by failing to go and identify the ball, it becomes "lost",
he then carries on and plays the provisional ( which happens to be in a very good place😉). Is this what could be done?
Is a player able to decide not to go and identify the found ball, or must he go and identify it..? What happens if he declines to identify it.?
Edit. Sorry- I've now seen the posts which appear in the thread earlier than this, which raise the same point and answer it, thus making this post of mine irrelevant
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rulie
Head Pro
Rule 1.2a says players are expected to act with integrity, and the Committee can DQ a player for acting contrary to the spirit of the game in cases of serious misconduct. This could be one of those cases.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Previously there was a specific decision which referred the matter to the committee. I suggest rulies' reference to 1.2a is the equivalent.
Swinglowandslow
Well-known member
I appreciate that the "debate" as to whether he played the wrong ball or not is over, but I found it interesting when I read rule 7.2 which someone quoted above.
The ways in which a ball is identified, and by whom.
So hypothetically,if I were playing a Pro V #2 and it was the ball found, it could be identified by my pp, if he had had that information earlier in the game.
Fair enough, until the ball player denies it is his because he wants to play his provisional in the hypothetical situation as mentioned previously.
This could make for an unsavoury situation and one I hope none of us experiences, but it could happen, I suppose.
I'm a little surprised that the rule writers didn't restrict the identification of the ball to the player himself, and rely on his integrity, as golf does so admirably in other matters.
The ways in which a ball is identified, and by whom.
So hypothetically,if I were playing a Pro V #2 and it was the ball found, it could be identified by my pp, if he had had that information earlier in the game.
Fair enough, until the ball player denies it is his because he wants to play his provisional in the hypothetical situation as mentioned previously.
This could make for an unsavoury situation and one I hope none of us experiences, but it could happen, I suppose.
I'm a little surprised that the rule writers didn't restrict the identification of the ball to the player himself, and rely on his integrity, as golf does so admirably in other matters.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Now it depends on the integrity of two people
