Proud, stunned, horrified - thoughts / advice please

Duncan thanks for the examples - in Sunday's case the opponent played before there was reasonable chance for James to point out that it wasn't his turn (and to be honest it was his 38 handicap partners first match so he wouldn't have known the rules anyway). This makes it seem a bit different to the Anikka event and I thought it competitive rather than bad sportsmanship - James said to me that he thought his opponents were bad sports regularly playing out of turn
 
Duncan thanks for the examples - in Sunday's case the opponent played before there was reasonable chance for James to point out that it wasn't his turn (and to be honest it was his 38 handicap partners first match so he wouldn't have known the rules anyway). This makes it seem a bit different to the Anikka event and I thought it competitive rather than bad sportsmanship - James said to me that he thought his opponents were bad sports regularly playing out of turn

As I said eralier (or tried to) these are just examples to learn from, they weren't meant to either indicate whether he should, or shouldn't have called his particular situation. Neither was I implying whether I felt he should, or shouldn't have called it. I didn't think your original post was focused on that question. Understanding 'whats going to happend next' and possibly why is all part of making such a call.
 
Rule 10-1

c. Playing Out of Turn
If a player plays when his opponent should have played, there is no penalty, but the opponent may immediately require the player to cancel the stroke so made and, in correct order, play a ball as nearly as possible at the spot from which the original ball was last played (see Rule 20-5).

Since your son mentioned it on the green, I think it's too late looking at the rule and the word immediately being in there.
You can't wait and see how your shot turns out before deciding whether or not to have them replay the shot.
 
I see your point but he didn't play another shot (he had already played and the shot in question was played when it was his partner's turn) - by the time he caught up with them they had shot off and reached the green and his partner hadn't played
 
I see your point but he didn't play another shot (he had already played and the shot in question was played when it was his partner's turn) - by the time he caught up with them they had shot off and reached the green and his partner hadn't played

Ah, I see.

To use an Americanism (sorry Bob), my bad.
 
I see your point but he didn't play another shot (he had already played and the shot in question was played when it was his partner's turn) - by the time he caught up with them they had shot off and reached the green and his partner hadn't played

Look on the bright side, at least the opponents were playing and walking quickly!

I've had two instances where I could have recalled a shot.
Once I didn't noticed her ball was ahead of markers until she had started her backswing, so left it. Thnkfully her shot was so-so so I didn't recall.

Another time, opponent was other side of fairway, at least 5 yards ahead of my ball, but she had her back to me and I know she is hard of hearing so calling was pointless.
She hit a real duffer so I let it go!
 
Don't worry about C). The spirit of the game includes knowing the rules and playing by them...and pointing out transgressions to any ill informed or less than honest opponents.
 
Annika spent some time preparing to play from around the green with everyone watching on, then chipped in. measuring established that she had been 'slightly' nearer and she was required to replay (and missed) and was in tears etc.
The thing about that was that on the LPGA tour there was apparently a local rule allowing players who were off the gree to play first even if they were closer than players who were on the green. Annika had assumed that the same rule would apply in the Solheim Cup - but it didn't.
 
well done your boy, to confront him and then after arguing get his sand save. well done. what would happen if it was your son against you????

Ah interesting but the situation probably wouldn't arise because by the 15th hole he would have already beaten me and faced with a shortish approach to the green I would normally have duffed it and i wouldnt have refused to play again in a match because rules is rules but if I refused to play again he would no doubt have holed his bunker shot to show me who's boss. Do you get the feeling I know my position in the family (golf taxi) !
 
Ah interesting but the situation probably wouldn't arise because by the 15th hole he would have already beaten me and faced with a shortish approach to the green I would normally have duffed it and i wouldnt have refused to play again in a match because rules is rules but if I refused to play again he would no doubt have holed his bunker shot to show me who's boss. Do you get the feeling I know my position in the family (golf taxi) !

you cud whisper in his ear 'we found you on our doorstop' see if that puts him off:whistle:
 
you cud whisper in his ear 'we found you on our doorstop' see if that puts him off:whistle:

Couldn't do it - he might never get over the shock of thinking either that he once missed the target or if that wasn't the case that his Dad had played the wrong ball and failed to declare it:D
 
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