Pro's shouting Fore

[SteveW86]

Following on from the thread where Perez was hitting fans for fun the other week, good to see/hear Rory shouting Fore with a couple of wayward tee shots on tonights coverage.

Are others starting to do this more?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Following on from the thread where Perez was hitting fans for fun the other week, good to see/hear Rory shouting Fore with a couple of wayward tee shots on tonights coverage.

Are others starting to do this more?

Good to see but he's still in a minority

 

[clubchamp98]

Following on from the thread where Perez was hitting fans for fun the other week, good to see/hear Rory shouting Fore with a couple of wayward tee shots on tonights coverage.

Are others starting to do this more?

The pros use the crowd as a backstop it stops them getting into trouble.
The only way to stop it before someone is killed is two shot penalty if you hit someone and don't shout fore.
The player should shout it nobody else so he is in charge of his ball.

as the R&A are changing some rules it's the perfect time to think about the fans for once.

 

[Sats]

I did hear that the pro's don't shout as a number of people around it can be hard to determine where it's coming from. That the hand signal works so that the marshalls can tell whose around that area to watch out. Again this is something I heard not condoning. It is not hard to shout and point at the same time.... unless you're playing for £££ it seems.

 

[Imurg]

So...
Schwartzel hits a drive, shouts of fore are heard and...

A small kid gets hit..And it looked like there were only 3 people within 20 yards of the landing area....

 

[bladeplayer]

Was gona post similar earlier loadsa foreeeee /fore riiight .. what are these ppl actualy watching if not the players ?

 

[USER1999]

It will be great viewing when PPE becomes compulsory to spectate at golf tournaments.

 

[need_my_wedge]

Picked up a copy of the latest English Club Golfer at the club yesterday. The back page is mostly taken up with an article headlined in large letters R&A CHIEF: PLAYERS SHOULD SHOUT 'FORE' and goes on to mention Mr Perez's multiple striking of fans with no mention of the word. It also mentions that enough people across all the tours have the same view, so hopefully it will be bought back to the fore.......

 

[Region3]

They'll have to start shouting when they stripe one down the middle as well

https://twitter.com/europeantour/status/840834677267034113

 

[need_my_wedge]

They'll have to start shouting when they stripe one down the middle as well

https://twitter.com/europeantour/status/840834677267034113

Don't think that's what he meant when his caddy said "you shoud hit the driver"

 

[Parsaregood]

The pros use the crowd as a backstop it stops them getting into trouble.
The only way to stop it before someone is killed is two shot penalty if you hit someone and don't shout fore.
The player should shout it nobody else so he is in charge of his ball.

as the R&A are changing some rules it's the perfect time to think about the fans for once.

No pro would use the crowd as a backstop, to say so is just utter nonsense. Obviously if the pro feels his shot is in danger of coming into close contact with spectators they should shout fore, HOWEVER if you go to a golf tournament and stand at the landing area on a hole you HAVE to accept it's a genuine possibility you could get hit by an errant tee shot. Fans also have a responsibility for their own safety aswell as professionals and tournament marshals

 

[Deleted member 15344]

No pro would use the crowd as a backstop, to say so is just utter nonsense. Obviously if the pro feels his shot is in danger of coming into close contact with spectators they should shout fore, HOWEVER if you go to a golf tournament and stand at the landing area on a hole you HAVE to accept it's a genuine possibility you could get hit by an errant tee shot. Fans also have a responsibility for their own safety aswell as professionals and tournament marshals

So if a pro knows the ball is going towards the crowd why don't they shout fore to alert the spectator ?

I'm also one to believe that they are sub consciously looking for a favourable bounce

 

[clubchamp98]

No pro would use the crowd as a backstop, to say so is just utter nonsense. Obviously if the pro feels his shot is in danger of coming into close contact with spectators they should shout fore, HOWEVER if you go to a golf tournament and stand at the landing area on a hole you HAVE to accept it's a genuine possibility you could get hit by an errant tee shot. Fans also have a responsibility for their own safety aswell as professionals and tournament marshals

you are entitled to your opinion but the lack of pros shouting fore seems to me very worrying .
if they shout fore and the ball goes OOB it's very costly
My experience of this is why they don't shout.
How many times have you seen the crowd stop a ball heading for bushes or OOB stopped by someone in the crowd.
If that was me or you it would be in the bushes or OOB.
I agree with you I would always choose my vantage point carefully.
If they just shout fore we would not be debating this I can't see why they won't and it is wont.
As usual the powers that be will wait for a death before doing something.

 

[Parsaregood]

So if a pro knows the ball is going towards the crowd why don't they shout fore to alert the spectator ?

I'm also one to believe that they are sub consciously looking for a favourable bounce

I do not believe any professional would think like this nor do I think they would benefit from hitting a spectator, there are marshals on the tee and on the fairway, the one on the tee indicates the direction of the tee shot. The marshals looking after that side of the hole should have notice and should notify any spectators who are not watching that a ball is going to land or is heading towards the area. In an ideal situation the pro should be seen to shout but i do not believe it would make any difference to crowd members being hit. If they are standing or walking in an area where golf balls are landing they should be aware of they're surroundings, it's as simple as that. Things happen, and if you have thousands of people on a golf course it is inevitable that it will happen.

 

[bladeplayer]

No pro would use the crowd as a backstop, to say so is just utter nonsense.

Obviously if the pro feels his shot is in danger of coming into close contact with spectators they should shout fore, HOWEVER if you go to a golf tournament and stand at the landing area on a hole you HAVE to accept it's a genuine possibility you could get hit by an errant tee shot. Fans also have a responsibility for their own safety aswell as professionals and tournament marshals

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Not so sure on first bit

100% agree with the rest

 

[HomerJSimpson]

It's quite simple. If golf really wanted to send a message, make it mandatory on every tour, that the player is responsible for shouting fore for any errant shot (if the caddie(s) join in all the better). Three strikes over the season and a fine, three more strikes and a shot penalty and three more, a DQ. It's there for everyone then. No excuses.

 

[Region3]

If the crowd hear a shout of fore they don't part like the Red Sea to let the ball go through. They pretty much stay where they are but cover their head with their arms, so regardless of a shout or not they are likely to prevent a ball travelling too far the wrong way.

I don't think the lack of shouts from players is because they want to bounce the ball off someone into a favourable position.

 

[clubchamp98]

If the crowd hear a shout of fore they don't part like the Red Sea to let the ball go through. They pretty much stay where they are but cover their head with their arms, so regardless of a shout or not they are likely to prevent a ball travelling too far the wrong way.

I don't think the lack of shouts from players is because they want to bounce the ball off someone into a favourable position.

Maybe but at least they have some warning to cover their head !

If they don't shout fore to get a favourable bounce then why do you think they don't shout ?

Every golfer I have played with in the last 35 years has shouted fore if his ball is close to someone .

I can think of no other reason for NOT shouting unless someone can enlighten me.

 

[Slab]

I think its a pretty safe assumption that the overwhelming majority of today's tour pros consistently shouted fore when they were amateur club players

In recent years many tour pros haven't been shouting fore and some have only recently started shouting fore again (and feeling a bit high and mighty with it)

So what is the trigger for change from shouting as an AM and not shouting as a Pro

Status, money, a perceived better ball position? Something changed their decision on whether they would shout

 

[clubchamp98]

I think its a pretty safe assumption that the overwhelming majority of today's tour pros consistently shouted fore when they were amateur club players

In recent years many tour pros haven't been shouting fore and some have only recently started shouting fore again (and feeling a bit high and mighty with it)

So what is the trigger for change from shouting as an AM and not shouting as a Pro

Status, money, a perceived better ball position? Something changed their decision on whether they would shout

Probably similar to prem footballers they have so many people to do things for them they lose the knack of doing things for themselves.

Lets not forget they are at work and I was told as a crane driver my actions impacted on my workmates and the public you would not believe the H&S that goes with a crane.

so why when there are so many fans don't they just shout?

Nobody has come up with a reason yet.