hairball_89
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Then you accept there are more than 2 genders and will continue to do all you can to ensure those who do not identify as cis-male/female are able to do so?
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I did a search for ‘number of genders 2021’ and got a variety of answers – 12, 15, 33, 63, 76. There are also ‘xenogenders,’ whatever they are. The fact that there are so many answers to such an obvious question suggests the apostles of the religion of transgenderism are not basing their ideology on science but emotion. To quote John Cleese in 1979, “he’s making it up.”
GreiginFife
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We allow billions of people to believe in stuff that's clearly "made up" without batting an eyelid so why should we be uncomfortable with this?
some non binary people are still ok with being called daughter or son while others want to remove any association with their gender.
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I posted yesterday that people can identify as they like but should not expect others to collude in the illusion but it was deleted by a mod for some reason.
Im a big fan of “Hitchens’ Razor’…
“That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.”
This phrase is very useful against religionists of all kinds –
Kellfire
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So all the people who don’t identity the way you want them to don’t count as evidence?
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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What’s a religionist? New one on me.
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Religionism is excessive or exaggerated religious zeal.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/religionist
SaintHacker
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I'm not uncomfortable with it, i just think its laughable attention seeking bull poo.
Ethan
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I don't mind people declaring themselves whatever they want to be, so long as it isn't for the purposes of fraud, but they need to be patient with people who don't remember everybody's detailed references and who have many years of ingrained conversational style on the clock.
My more skeptical side is that there is as much 'me, me, me' in many of these requests as 'he/she/they/it'.
Maybe I should put a note in my email signature saying: Please note that any gender related descriptors refer only to conventional/oudated (delta as appropriate) perceived biological chromosomal gender and not any subsequent lifestyle choice or re-orientation, with which I wish you all the best. E&OE.
My more skeptical side is that there is as much 'me, me, me' in many of these requests as 'he/she/they/it'.
Maybe I should put a note in my email signature saying: Please note that any gender related descriptors refer only to conventional/oudated (delta as appropriate) perceived biological chromosomal gender and not any subsequent lifestyle choice or re-orientation, with which I wish you all the best. E&OE.
SocketRocket
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People not wanting to be acknowledged as male or female is their choice but they can't force others into agreeing with or playing along with them. Someone could say they no longer wish to be recognised as human and wish people to see them as Clingon or Martians but why should others have to.
Kellfire
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Because it’s demonstrable that they aren’t from Kronos or Mars.
Perhaps not an intelligent reply but, simply, why not? Does it really hurt you to acknowledge someone else’s definition of themselves? If I was some govt job’s worth I might argue the toss but is it really important to the man in the street?
PhilTheFragger
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Just showed this thread to my daughter who identifies as female, and has several friends who are "fluid" in their choices.
She just shook her head and said its a lot of middle aged/ old men who just dont get it and probably never will
i tend to agree
She just shook her head and said its a lot of middle aged/ old men who just dont get it and probably never will
i tend to agree
Kellfire
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What’s sad is that they don’t even have to they’ll still set out to openly negate those who do.
RichA
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Not aimed at you, but picking up on your remark - is asking friends and colleagues to refer to you in a particular manner more or less attention seeking than posting inflammatory opinions on the worldwide web, knowing that a reasonable number of people will challenge them?
There's a strong element of "me, me, me," in a large proportion of the material that we all post on here.
RichA
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I feel like a decent number of us are trying to get it.
to be honest i don't 100% get it and still call my child by their old name and use she/her but i have got to try and change 22 years of habit
Kellfire
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I bet she cares more about the fact you’re trying. ??
