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A one off, just another Leicester.Yeah something like that..........
As if I'm letting you forget ??
A one off, just another Leicester.Yeah something like that..........
As if I'm letting you forget ??
But the point is it doesn't show that at all. It's a mathematical principle that the distribution of points will remain close to average year on year regardless of the relative 'strength' of the league. So it neither proves or disproves your point, it isn't something that should be used as a 'factual' thing.
That others are in the top 6 only strengthens the argument imo. Leicester have had a good season but have been mid table for a couple of years and capitalised well on the failings of others.
For Wolves, read Everton, Villa, Bolton, Leeds teams of the past (and many more). There's always a couple of decent mid table sides that have good years and push into the top 5/6, their season isn't anything new.
I still don't really understand why you care what others think/say about your success, but it's fine that you do ??
A one off, just another Leicester.
Fully agreed! It's been the worst season I can remember watching. And not just for the poor quality of the challengers and zero title race, but there's the absolute catastrophe of VAR to chuck in as well. Just dire.So it’s agreed then, poor season, best forgotten.
It’s weird,it’s like most of the big Clubs in Europe aren’t quite what they were a few years ago.It wasn't that long ago everyone was saying how the PL was the strongest in Europe. I assume now then that after taking all 4 finals places in Europe last season, and World Club champ in the PL it's not now?
So is the PL now like the Bundesliga was....one team in complete control?
So is that because they have dropped the ball or has everyone else got stronger with more even money splits?It’s weird,it’s like most of the big Clubs in Europe aren’t quite what they were a few years ago.
It still is the strongest in Europe imo, I have to be careful being a blue, but, some of us saying the PL has been poor this season are judging it against previous PL season’s.It wasn't that long ago everyone was saying how the PL was the strongest in Europe. I assume now then that after taking all 4 finals places in Europe last season, and World Club champ in the PL it's not now?
So is the PL now like the Bundesliga was....one team in complete control?
Could be down to a few of the big key players knocking on a bit.So is that because they have dropped the ball or has everyone else got stronger with more even money splits?
Perhaps we preferred it with the same 2 or 3 clubs running each league?
I think that's a really good point.. We seem to be hitting a lull in the number of those true standout world class performers.. Messi in his 30s, REAL haven't really had any since Ronaldo went. Italian league hasn't for some time thrown up a Baggio/Totti typeCould be down to a few of the big key players knocking on a bit.
Barca & Real aren’t overly impressive at the moment imo.
Or is that certain Spanish or Italian clubs are no longer hoovering up the talent like they used to and the younger talent is spread about more?I think that's a really good point.. We seem to be hitting a lull in the number of those true standout world class performers.. Messi in his 30s, REAL haven't really had any since Ronaldo went. Italian league hasn't for some time thrown up a Baggio/Totti type
Probably a very good point BM, but also I think the modern transfer values and wages have somewhat masked a lot of true talent. Look at PSG they've arguably 2 of the greatest talents in current qorld football playing upfront for them in arguably one of the weakest top divisions yet not many clubs can afford to pry them away.Or is that certain Spanish or Italian clubs are no longer hoovering up the talent like they used to and the younger talent is spread about more?
But are they not there simply because the clubs owners have the funds to keep them and the dodgy way Barca and Real funded and operated is now under much greater control?Probably a very good point BM, but also I think the modern transfer values and wages have somewhat masked a lot of true talent. Look at PSG they've arguably 2 of the greatest talents in current qorld football playing upfront for them in arguably one of the weakest top divisions yet not many clubs can afford to pry them away.
Again possibly you're right with that but that in itself I think proves the misconceptions of the greatest leagues in the world theory. Because the greatest players don't necessarily play in it, want to play in it or simply can't play in it because of the financial offerings elsewhere. The amount of wealth in the game now is so vast that there will never be a greatest league because nobody chooses to play for teams like they used to based on history, or because who the team are. It literally now is who pays the most regardless of what you can win. I think a better term than greatest league should be most competitive league, but this season doesn't equate to that due to how uncompetitive the PL has been.. Liverpool have been excellent theres no doubt abiut that but the rest has been a little wantingBut are they not there simply because the clubs owners have the funds to keep them and the dodgy way Barca and Real funded and operated is now under much greater control?
But the point is it doesn't show that at all. It's a mathematical principle that the distribution of points will remain close to average year on year regardless of the relative 'strength' of the league. So it neither proves or disproves your point, it isn't something that should be used as a 'factual' thing.
That others are in the top 6 only strengthens the argument imo. Leicester have had a good season but have been mid table for a couple of years and capitalised well on the failings of others.
For Wolves, read Everton, Villa, Bolton, Leeds teams of the past (and many more). There's always a couple of decent mid table sides that have good years and push into the top 5/6, their season isn't anything new.
I still don't really understand why you care what others think/say about your success, but it's fine that you do ??