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[Deleted member 1740]

I was trying to think this afternoon, who was the last number 2 to successfully step up. There are a stack who have failed but I can't think of a recent one who has managed it.

Chris Houghton done a good job at both Brighton and Newcastle.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I was trying to think this afternoon, who was the last number 2 to successfully step up. There are a stack who have failed but I can't think of a recent one who has managed it.

Colin Harvey won the League before Football was invented when he took over from Howard Kendall.

 

[Jensen]

Chris Houghton done a good job at both Brighton and Newcastle.

.....until he was sacked by BOTH

 

[Deleted member 1740]

.....until he was sacked by BOTH

Doesn't make him a bad manager.

Point stands.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Yeah at least if you go for experience you know it’s going to go well.
Van gaal,Jose ,Scolari,Hodgson.

 

[Jensen]

Yeah at least if you go for experience you know it’s going to go well.
Van gaal,Jose ,Scolari,Hodgson.

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Oh, don't worry there's still time for The Poison One.....

 

[PJ87]

It's a big step up from a number 2, just ask Brian Kidd , Sammy Lee

What about your very own Jose? Was just a translator

 

[Pin-seeker]

EVERY manager is a gamble & very few last more than a few seasons.
Obviously we can all point out the inexperienced ones that fail,but I’d bet a lot more “experienced” ones also fail.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I like the idea of Arteta coming in with his affiliation to the club. I think the fans will buy into that, at least initially and many I feel have already written off this season really, certainly in the PL. I hope the board give him some cash to spend if necessary in January and definitely in the summer. If he can light a spark into Ozil and get him back to the player he can be then that's like a new player coming in. Three and a half year contract but I think he'll need all of that time to really see progress and make a difference

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I wasn't saying a number 2 can't step up, it just doesn't happen that often successfully. Of the names mentioned only Chris Hughton is relatively recent.

 

[Wolf]

I like the idea of Arteta coming in with his affiliation to the club. I think the fans will buy into that, at least initially and many I feel have already written off this season really, certainly in the PL. I hope the board give him some cash to spend if necessary in January and definitely in the summer. If he can light a spark into Ozil and get him back to the player he can be then that's like a new player coming in. Three and a half year contract but I think he'll need all of that time to really see progress and make a difference

Would prefer him to blow that spark firmly and onto another club

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Would prefer him to blow that spark firmly and onto another club

But who'll take him in those wages? Surely better, certainly short term to try and get him back on board and playing the football he showed a few seasons back. That goes to a few players to be fair. I think the man management side is going to be Arteta's biggest challenge and getting the whole squad gelled, playing a system they understand and believe in (certainly not evidence under Emery)

 

[fundy]

But who'll take him in those wages? Surely better, certainly short term to try and get him back on board and playing the football he showed a few seasons back. That goes to a few players to be fair. I think the man management side is going to be Arteta's biggest challenge and getting the whole squad gelled, playing a system they understand and believe in (certainly not evidence under Emery)

Fenerbache hopefully

And for me no, Id take the opposite approach and expect Arteta to, anyone who doesnt want to commit 100% can do one in January and then rebuild from there. Plenty of chatter from players agents, mates etc, expect Arteta to find out whos in and whos out very quickly. Could be a fun window

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Fenerbache hopefully

And for me no, Id take the opposite approach and expect Arteta to, anyone who doesnt want to commit 100% can do one in January and then rebuild from there. Plenty of chatter from players agents, mates etc, expect Arteta to find out whos in and whos out very quickly. Could be a fun window

But surely that's reliant on the board stumping up cash. Not always their strong point

 

[fundy]

But surely that's reliant on the board stumping up cash. Not always their strong point

my views on the board well known lol

 

[Kellfire]

I was trying to think this afternoon, who was the last number 2 to successfully step up. There are a stack who have failed but I can't think of a recent one who has managed it.

Mourinho’s done all right.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

my views on the board well known lol

Agreed. I think they'll make or break Arteta's tenture though. If he doesn't get the scope to rebuild its a futile job for anyone

 

[Wolf]

But who'll take him in those wages? Surely better, certainly short term to try and get him back on board and playing the football he showed a few seasons back. That goes to a few players to be fair. I think the man management side is going to be Arteta's biggest challenge and getting the whole squad gelled, playing a system they understand and believe in (certainly not evidence under Emery)

Not all even with those wages rather see him far from the team, along with anyone of the same attitude

 

[USER1999]

Not all even with those wages rather see him far from the team, along with anyone of the same attitude

Yes, I would go with Arteta. Anyone not on board, bin them off. However famous, popular, wages what ever. The future is with the coaches vision. If you don't fit, get out. Clear the way for those who do fit the dream. Then we will see how far it goes. Half hearted never won zip. Buy in 100% and see where it goes.

 

[USER1999]

Ozil. When he plays well, awsome. What a player. Bizarrely, even if playing badly, has the hump when subbed. He must care, but doesn't show it on the pitch, to any great extent.

But, on any given week, a bit meh. Not sure how any coach gets the best Ozil. It's a shame, as he is brilliant when fired up.

But, 18m a year. 18m. It is a boat load of cash. If you subsidised his wages elsewhere by 13m, you would still save 5m. Got to be done. Just has to.

Artet needs to be brutal. Very.