rulefan
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There is no reason for the club not to utilize that rule.
Preferred Lies - Winter extension
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Swango1980
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Our club is still using preferred lies, to be monitored weekly.
NearHull
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Just received Yorkshire Union of Golf Club notification that there will not be an automatic extension of the ‘clean pick and place’ LR for acceptable scores after 14 May.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Our Ladies have just received similar advice from the YLCGA.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Hurrah. Winter Rules lifted yesterday at my place.
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
Boo... Back to 'pick/clean/place' throughout the general area & hence back to non-qualifying. Darn weather ...
rulefan
Tour Winner
Just curious but why don't you (and others) use the correct term 'Preferred Lies' - it needs fewer key strokes
Or even just LCP.
2blue
Journeyman Pro
& can still be Q ... whats your Club up to??Just curious but why don't you (and others) use the correct term 'Preferred Lies' - it needs fewer key strokes
Or even just LCP.
chrisd
Major Champion
Ours finish tonight
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
OK, we're back to playing preferred lies throughout the general area. And I'm not aware that play can be qualifying under those conditions?
jim8flog
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Correct. They can only make it qualifying if they make it mark, lift, clean and replace in areas not cut to fairway height.
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
Precisely.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Not correct.
GH/4 Local Rule for Lift, Clean and Replace
Acceptable Scores are permitted when the Local Rule (Model Local Rule E2) allowing cleaning of the ball in the General Area is in place.
IanM
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Always strikes me a odd that there's an imposed date from County or wherever, when courses can be so different in terms of drainage, condition, green staff etc etc.
The factor is "condition " not date!
The factor is "condition " not date!
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
That's as maybe (although I don't really see that's different to what Jim8flog said?) but in our case a) we haven't got E2 in place, and b) we're exceeding the permission that E2 would grant.
We were back to Q rounds last week using (and playing to) E3 but lots more rain this week pushed us back. I guess we could do Q rounds if we brought in all the necessary LRs but we've decided it's just simpler (and preferable for playing) to play preferred lies throughout and not have Q rounds for the while. I guess we'll see how the course dries over the next week.
rulefan
Tour Winner
jim8flog said it had to be limited to the fairway for it to be acceptable but that is not so.
The General Area covers all of the course except for the other four defined areas: (1) the teeing area the player must play from in starting the hole they are playing, (2) all penalty areas, (3) all bunkers, and (4) the putting green of the hole the player is playing.
NearHull
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We are going to “end ball cleaning” LRs tonight. We considered bringing in E2, but we think that the membership will ‘forget’ to mark and replace when in the fairways. We will receive many complaints about mud balls but on the whole the removal of cleaning LRs will stop members ‘ misunderstandings’ .
backwoodsman
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Not sure that's what Jim8flog said. He didn't say it had to be limited to fairway - he said it can only be qualifying if areas not cut to fairway height are made lift, clean, replace (under E2 presumably). (OK, I use the words in a slightly different order - but it's easy to see what he meant. And , OK, I know use of words needs to be precise whe referring to rules).
