potential problem with the new 'flag in' rule !

I have huge sympathy with that view; but can also see why they have done this (with this OTT approach to saving time everywhere).
My preference would be for a simply addition to the written definition that added "any doubt as to whether part of the ball is below the surface may be resolved by carefully centering the flagstick".
Gives the best of both worlds with balls that are obviously holed, but easily removed, being available quickly and any doubt easily resolved on the course.
Don’t you think it would take more time to resolve a dispute than it saves.
It would with some players I know.
Just think it’s unessesary.
 
It won’t add much time no, but in light of the new rules and for ease. It’ll be irritating to be asked to tend, when it’d be pointless now. It might be someone’s wish, but one must question what the hell for and I would think this person is a prat.
A Prat for making a choice? Really.
 
Nope but anyone who asks is just being awkward and wasting others people's time as the practice is now completely unnecessary
Seriously going back through this again ?

It’s not your place to tell others what they should feel is unnecessary- if someone wants the flag tended then that’s their right to ask.

I thought Golf was supposed to be a gentlemen’s game and been all about good manners and etiquette - that includes when someone politely asks someone else if they could tend the flag please , you see people still doing it on both the ET and PGA Tour - until it’s no longer allowed by the ruling bodies then I would expect everyone to act with the good grace expected from golfers if someone requests a flag to be tended
 
Seriously going back through this again ?

It’s not your place to tell others what they should feel is unnecessary- if someone wants the flag tended then that’s their right to ask.

I thought Golf was supposed to be a gentlemen’s game and been all about good manners and etiquette - that includes when someone politely asks someone else if they could tend the flag please , you see people still doing it on both the ET and PGA Tour - until it’s no longer allowed by the ruling bodies then I would expect everyone to act with the good grace expected from golfers if someone requests a flag to be tended

Who's place is it then?
 
Who's place is it then?

If you don’t want the flag to be tended then that’s your choice - no one can tell you anything different , just as it’s someones choice to have it tended as long as it’s in the rules, until then their right is the same as anyone else’s and no one can tell them different and certainly only they can decide if it’s “unnecessary” for them.
 
Don’t you think it would take more time to resolve a dispute than it saves.
It would with some players I know.
Just think it’s unessesary.
I agree completely.
Don't think I posted to the contrary, only that I can understand why they chose to add the option to simply remove a ball that is effectively holed.
There are also a number of other situations that the revised definition of holed solves - but unless you have had to rule on them most won't be aware at all.
As I posted, no reason why the best of both worlds couldn't have been implemented.
 
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