Possible Rule Changes

[Region3]

In scenario 3 under the proposals a ball that is moved during a search will be placed, not dropped, and the rules tell us to place it under any natural objects such as leaves or grass as it originally was.

This is never going to replicate the original lie perfectly but it is better than players getting a drop on top trodden down grass after a prolonged search

There are unfortunately lots of golfers that will not place the ball in as bad a lie as it was originally in. Guaranteed.

 

[Region3]

If someone wants to abuse the rules they'll abuse them, whatever form they take.

Agreed, but a lot of potential mickey-takes can be spotted now. Replacing an accidentally moved ball, dropping from only just above the ground, and no need to tell anyone if you're picking your ball up to identify it, check for damage or to see if it's embedded would be very difficult to police the abuse of.

 

[Region3]

Surely using aimpoint in the rough is going to slow the game down?

 

[IanG]

Surely using aimpoint in the rough is going to slow the game down?


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v. good Gary

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Give with one hand, take away with the other...
Ready golf, 3 minutes ball search will speed things up a little until you get to the green when we will all become gardeners trying to create a perfect lawn. The Pros are going to take 6 hours to get round now...
I don't see the reasoning behind the change to the dropping procedure or the lengths (20"/80") or whatever...
Do we all have to carry a tape measure now?
We have a measuring device - it's called a driver and can't be more than 4' long....
Most of the rest of it I can see where they're coming from..

It says on the R&A website that the 20/80" can easily be measured using marks on the club shaft so there seems little point changing it.

 

[chrisd]

I think the answer to repairing spike marks on the green should be to compel all players to carry a pair of carpet slippers, change into them for going on the green and back when leaving it, it may save time for those who will do ' gardening for England'

 

[bobmac]

Re: Rules of Golf Changes - 2019

Will also be very interested to hear what the rules guys on here think about the apparent dumbing down of the current set.

Don't hold your breath, they never leave the rules room

 

[Colin L]

Re: Rules of Golf Changes - 2019

Don't hold your breath, they never leave the rules room

Did somebody say something?

I'm not commenting till I've taken time to read the proposals and think.

 

[rulefan]

The rules, in general have worked well for donkey's years bar the odd one that needed changing, e.g. a drop from a fairway divot hole, but I suspect there's a cheats charter in some of the proposed changes.

That really is one for the cheats. Don't like the lie. the ball is sitting down to far. Oh it's in a divot hole.

 

[chrisd]

Just done the R&A questionnaire. Im quite happy with proposed changes as its the same for everyone but can fully understand the ' cheats charter' posts

The good thing is that making changes, and advertising them well makes the people who dont learn any rules, or indulge in the myths, sit upand take notice more as they'll be well publicised

 

[Fish]

Did somebody say something?

I'm not commenting till I've taken time to read the proposals and think.

That really is one for the cheats. Don't like the lie. the ball is sitting down to far. Oh it's in a divot hole.

Don't hold your breath, they never leave the rules room

Just like the buses, none for ages then 2 come along together 😜😂😂

 

[bobmac]

Just like the buses, none for ages then 2 come along together 

They must be having a day out

 

[MendieGK]

I dont agree with the removal of the ball in a divot. It would leave the door open for too many 'contentious' discussions about whether or not it is actually a divot?

Prevention is better than cure.

 

[ScienceBoy]

I like these, seem good revisions.

Could go a little further in other areas.

Will take shots off scores too as well as speed up rounds.

 

[Fish]

I dont agree with the removal of the ball in a divot. It would leave the door open for too many 'contentious' discussions about whether or not it is actually a divot?

Prevention is better than cure.

I've always said this and it's pretty rare also imo.

There are loads of players that attempt to get relief from what they think is a scrape which clearly isn't in the full sense of the word & description, and 1 person once tried to ask for relief just because of a few droppings as he was up against a tree 😳

I think a fairway divot would end up the same argument as too many people would try to interpret the rule to suit themselves and their lie!

 

[Crazyface]

I dont agree with the removal of the ball in a divot. It would leave the door open for too many 'contentious' discussions about whether or not it is actually a divot?

Prevention is better than cure.

I had this discussion with a few golfing mates over the years. Who cares what constitutes a divot? If you say it is, then it is. Drop nearest point on lush grass. I have no problem with that at all.

 

[fundy]

This is part of the proposed changes

I put that as well, then have just come across this...

Embedded Ball
Relief for embedded ball in the general area: You may take relief if your ball is embedded anywhere (except in sand) in the general area (which is the new term for “through the green”), except where a Local Rule restricts relief to the fairway or similar areas (this reverses the default position in the current Rules).

teach me to read it more thoroughly, thanks good to know me and the R&A are on the same page though

 

[Crazyface]

Just do it quickly and be ready to hit.

 

[Fish]

I had this discussion with a few golfing mates over the years. Who cares what constitutes a divot? If you say it is, then it is. Drop nearest point on lush grass. I have no problem with that at all.

So your happy to ignore or manipulate rules to suit, wow 😳

 

[User62651]

I dont agree with the removal of the ball in a divot. It would leave the door open for too many 'contentious' discussions about whether or not it is actually a divot?

Prevention is better than cure.

Why not just have preferred lies for any shot 'through the green' - (6" radius not nearer hole)- and let you clean the ball - if you've hit short grass why should you be penalised by a bad lie? Golf is hard enough, they're trying to make it more attractive and easier to play. Good lie with clean ball = better result of shot = quicker golf!