elliottlale
Q-School Graduate
many people talking about going round and getting a certain amount of points, what is it all about?? i want in!! probably handicap based, im off 24, what do i do???
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Losttheplot
Tour Rookie
I'm assuming your really new to the game....
It's a format of the game called stapleford. It's a way to allow players of varying abilities play in the same game and have an equal chance of winning.
What happens is if your off 24 then you receive 1 shot per hole and on the 6 hardest holes you receive an extra shot to the 1 you already receive. Hence 24 handicap, 24 shots you receive.
Now for every par you get using your extra shots you get 2 points. A birdie 3, a bogey 1.
For example if you get a score of 5 on a par 4 and you only receive 1 shot then the par 4 now becomes a par 5 on your handicap. So what is now a par 5 and you took 5 shots means you get 2 points.
The idea is if you play to your handicap then you will finish 18 holes of golf with 36 points.
That's the basics..... It becomes obvious when you play the game once or twice..... You will be fine, honestly
Hope all that made sense.
It's a format of the game called stapleford. It's a way to allow players of varying abilities play in the same game and have an equal chance of winning.
What happens is if your off 24 then you receive 1 shot per hole and on the 6 hardest holes you receive an extra shot to the 1 you already receive. Hence 24 handicap, 24 shots you receive.
Now for every par you get using your extra shots you get 2 points. A birdie 3, a bogey 1.
For example if you get a score of 5 on a par 4 and you only receive 1 shot then the par 4 now becomes a par 5 on your handicap. So what is now a par 5 and you took 5 shots means you get 2 points.
The idea is if you play to your handicap then you will finish 18 holes of golf with 36 points.
That's the basics..... It becomes obvious when you play the game once or twice..... You will be fine, honestly
Hope all that made sense.
elliottlale
Q-School Graduate
hi, thanks, yes new to the game! so, just worked out from my game at bath today that i would have scored 42 points, what is a good score?
i even got a par on the hardest hole, which was par 4. (that is 4 points yes??)
i even got a par on the hardest hole, which was par 4. (that is 4 points yes??)
CliveW
Tour Winner
It is called STABLEFORD 
http://www.mulliganplus.com/stableford-calculation.cfm
http://www.mulliganplus.com/stableford-calculation.cfm
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
42 points is a good score, and in simplistic terms indicates that you played 6 under your handicap. To play to your handicap, 36 points is the "norm". But it doesn't always work out like that 'cos you could get 4 points on one hole but take a 20 shots on another and it would just go down as a "blob".
And if you are playing off 24, and parred the hardest hole on the course (where you would get two shots) that becomes a net eagle which would score you 4 points as you say.
It seems very complicated initially, but soon becomes second nature as you will usually play more STABLEFORD competitions than any other.
"Better" golfers don't really like Stableford competitions because they do tend to favour the higher handicappers. If a low handicapped player "blobs" (doesn't score) on a hole, he has GOT to get 2 birdies somewhere in the round to get those two points he's just dropped back, whereas a higher handicapped player can get those points back simply by parring a couple of holes, or getting a birdie for 4 points.
Hope that makes sense?
Fyldewhite
Tour Winner
Yes, as above, good score!
I think the reason low handicappers don't tend to be great fans is that effectively an 8,9,10 or worse just counts as a "blob" (ie no points on the hole) so compared to a medal (stroke) play, a really bad hole simply doesn't matter. Obviously it's predominantly higher handicappers that benefit most from this system as they tend to have more "disaster" holes than lower handicappers. You may hear Stroke play refered to as "proper" golf and Stableford as a "fun" comp etc.
Oh...... and please, please, please, remember it's got a B in the middle and not a P !!
I think the reason low handicappers don't tend to be great fans is that effectively an 8,9,10 or worse just counts as a "blob" (ie no points on the hole) so compared to a medal (stroke) play, a really bad hole simply doesn't matter. Obviously it's predominantly higher handicappers that benefit most from this system as they tend to have more "disaster" holes than lower handicappers. You may hear Stroke play refered to as "proper" golf and Stableford as a "fun" comp etc.
Oh...... and please, please, please, remember it's got a B in the middle and not a P !!
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Spot on.
I personally prefer stroke play or matchplay myself but at most forum meets, Stableford is the "expected" format of play so I will go with the flow.
I'd love the upcoming Woodhall Spa meet to be a two round medal, but I think one or two might have something to say about it if I changed the format!!
MashieNiblick
Tour Winner
From Wikipedia
"The Stableford system was developed by Dr. Frank Barney Gorton Stableford (1870–1959), to deter golfers from giving up on their round after just one or two bad holes. It was first used informally at the Glamorganshire Golf Club, Penarth, Wales, in 1898, and first used in competition at Wallasey Golf Club in Wallasey, England, in 1932"
Now it's a very popular format, especially in winter. By limiting the impact of a disasterous hole it means a bad start won't necessarily ruin your round and so it keeps more competitors interested for longer. It also, as indicated above, has the effect of levelling the field.
Also theoretically speeds up play as you should pick up when you have taken too many shots to score a point.
You get shots based on your handicap at the holes according to their stroke index. So being off 11 I get 11 shots on stroke index holes 1-11. When people say "I get a shot on this hole", that means they can reduce their score by one shot for that hole to score points. E.g. its a par 4, they score 5, they get a shot so deduct 1 = 4 = 2 Stableford points for a par.
As said above it sounds complicated but after a couple of rounds it becomes second nature.
"The Stableford system was developed by Dr. Frank Barney Gorton Stableford (1870–1959), to deter golfers from giving up on their round after just one or two bad holes. It was first used informally at the Glamorganshire Golf Club, Penarth, Wales, in 1898, and first used in competition at Wallasey Golf Club in Wallasey, England, in 1932"
Now it's a very popular format, especially in winter. By limiting the impact of a disasterous hole it means a bad start won't necessarily ruin your round and so it keeps more competitors interested for longer. It also, as indicated above, has the effect of levelling the field.
Also theoretically speeds up play as you should pick up when you have taken too many shots to score a point.
You get shots based on your handicap at the holes according to their stroke index. So being off 11 I get 11 shots on stroke index holes 1-11. When people say "I get a shot on this hole", that means they can reduce their score by one shot for that hole to score points. E.g. its a par 4, they score 5, they get a shot so deduct 1 = 4 = 2 Stableford points for a par.
As said above it sounds complicated but after a couple of rounds it becomes second nature.
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Somebody needs to tell Dr Frank Barney Gorton Stableford that it doesn't work
elliottlale
Q-School Graduate
whats a 'medal' then??
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Strokeplay. Like the pro's play.
Add up your total gross score, take away your handicap to give you your net score.
You have to think about it a lot more 'cos one blow up hole could cost you a win, unlike Stableford.
richart
Major Champion
Somebody needs to tell Dr Frank Barney Gorton Stableford that it doesn't work
Good job he dropped the Dr Frank Barney Gorton from his scoring sysyem.
Bacardibatman
Challenge Tour Pro
im guessing Dr Frank Barney Gorton Stableford was a complete hacker who could never win so came up with a system to enable him to win
for the record i dont mind playing (*SGPSS , i mean stableford) but it is stacked towards higher handicaps especially if its full Hdcp & not 7/8 th's
* sh1te golfer points scoring system
for the record i dont mind playing (*SGPSS , i mean stableford) but it is stacked towards higher handicaps especially if its full Hdcp & not 7/8 th's
* sh1te golfer points scoring system
mulliganplus
Newbie
In Europe all handicaps are calculated using the Stableford system which works well for them. Stableford does create an easier system for playing with golfers with a different handicap. We use it for our leagues so that golfers of different handicaps can compete.
Once the whole adjustments have been taken into account in the UK (which limits a hole score to 2 over par) the systems are pretty similar.
Mulligan+
Once the whole adjustments have been taken into account in the UK (which limits a hole score to 2 over par) the systems are pretty similar.
Mulligan+
Bratty
Princess Pouty (Queen of Fish Lips)
A medal is a frustratingly annoying piece of s**t format where you shoot 40 on the front 9, think you're in with a shout, and then proceed to go 9, 6, 6 and ruin the rest of the round and finish with a 93!
I'M SO F***ED OFF RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU!!!
Welcome to golf and the forum, mate.
jammydodger
Tour Winner
A medal is a frustratingly annoying piece of s**t format where you shoot 40 on the front 9, think you're in with a shout, and then proceed to go 9, 6, 6 and ruin the rest of the round and finish with a 93!
I'M SO F***ED OFF RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU!!!
Welcome to golf and the forum, mate.
Sounds like you put far too much pressure on yourself to perform. Chill Bratty. You probs got in a downward spiral and couldnt stop it. Thats when you need to take a step back and breathe , relax , smell the flowers and regroup. The more you let the score get to you the worse you will score (take it from a serial collapser of huge proportions
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goldenbare
Challenge Tour Pro
Bratty, its back to the old adage of the large percentage of golf being between the ears. I sympathise with your frustrations though, we've all been thereA medal is a frustratingly annoying piece of s**t format where you shoot 40 on the front 9, think you're in with a shout, and then proceed to go 9, 6, 6 and ruin the rest of the round and finish with a 93!
I'M SO F***ED OFF RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU!!!
Welcome to golf and the forum, mate.
goldenbare
Challenge Tour Pro
elliott, without trying to be impolite, how have you acquired a handicap without knowing the 2 basic scoring methods employed in club golf comps?
I appreciate a "medal" is really a "stroke play" comp but i thought you would have come across the term in dealing with handing in handicap cards.
Is it one of these internet site handicaps?
I appreciate a "medal" is really a "stroke play" comp but i thought you would have come across the term in dealing with handing in handicap cards.
Is it one of these internet site handicaps?
elliottlale
Q-School Graduate
hi, well i joined bath golf club and went out once on my own to get an insight into the course, then went 3 times and added on to a 2 ball, so i could get my card signed and handed in so i could get my handicap. then on friday i went out on my own to see how my practice has been going and worked out what score i got. my first round out was terrible as i was so so nervous!haha
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Noooooooooo!!
He's much funnier when he's lobbing clubs
