doesn't each group each have its own scorer too?
Pepperell DQ
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duncan mackie
Money List Winner
Well, actually it's only a penalty issue if you sign for a score that is lower....but I appreciate that you were highlighting a principle here ?
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
Nope. If that had been the case the result would have been different.
The committee ruled on his drop prior to him returning his card and without discussing the situation with him.
In his post round interview it became clear that the situation was not what the committee had assumed, and ruled on ....so the phone lines between the tournament committee and the R&A got warm.
The advice to the committee was that they should have spoken to the player before ruling, but as they hadn't their decision (that the player hadn't gained an advantage) couldn't be ignored. Not could the player be penalised for signing for a score that didn't contain a penalty he didn't know about etc. However the technical penalty for not playing from the correct place should be added to his score.
The latter part subsequently becoming part of a rule change.
There, you have me going through it all again after all...?
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
If he does suffer with this then surely he would get every other players score wrong every week!I worked out a best fit relationship between Course / Bogey Rating and course yardage as follows:
Course Rating = 0.0046*(Course Yardage) + 41.718
Bogey Rating = 0.0068*(Course Yardage) + 52.784
I hate mathematics as well
But, I'm also easily distracted in the office.
If Eddie Pepperell suffers from discalculia, perhaps he can accuse the R&A of discrimination?
As well as his own.
It’s a basic of golf and a bad mistake for a pro .
At the end of it the only one who is penalised is himself and his caddy.
SteveJay
Head Pro
Think you missed my point, if the event is shown live on TV then someone somewhere is recording scores for every player live, so the leaderboard can be shown on TV and on the course. Who is recording scores for every group as they happen - obviously someone, otherwise the leaderboard could only be updated at the end of a round.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
The scorers are there for the benefit of the media staticians etc and they get it wrong on occasions.
Grumps
Tour Rookie
I always thought when they go into the hut at back of 18th green it’s to check this and then sign for the score or is that just for the cameras at the majors ?
Swinglowandslow
Well-known member
I would have thought in this day and age , in the Pro game, with independent scorers for each group, that a level of proportionality could be factored into the game.
After all, the original objective is to accurately determine how many strokes the Pro went round in.
On the PGA and other Pro tours, it is quite clear what their score is, from accurate sources other than the players card.
A clerical error should not lead to a DQ which may lead to a loss of card and future playing rights.
Those who stubbornly want to see the rule not changed from the draconian status quo should really disenthrall themselves. Circumstances have changed from when the rule was first created. IMHO
After all, the original objective is to accurately determine how many strokes the Pro went round in.
On the PGA and other Pro tours, it is quite clear what their score is, from accurate sources other than the players card.
A clerical error should not lead to a DQ which may lead to a loss of card and future playing rights.
Those who stubbornly want to see the rule not changed from the draconian status quo should really disenthrall themselves. Circumstances have changed from when the rule was first created. IMHO
SteveJay
Head Pro
I see Emilliano Grillo was disqualified at the Arnold Palmer Invitational today - was that also for a scorecard error?
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
And usually volunteers
Imagine a 5mil winners cheque being awarded incorrectly because of a slip of the pen by a volunteer on Thursday morning ?
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
And?
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Very daft mistakes all round.
And by the rules it's a DQ
But when they announce the winner they sometimes say " and with rounds of 66,67,66 and 70 the winner is..."
Not with a 1st round of 4,4,5,4,3,3,4,3,4, etc
It's the big number at the end that really counts and as long as the number signed for isn't lower than the actual then, really, in the great scheme of things, should it be a problem?
I know what the rules say but in this day and age there shouldn't be a need for a dq like this, for what is essentially an admin error - especially when the big number at the end isnt different
Ultimately its Eddie's mistake.
And by the rules it's a DQ
But when they announce the winner they sometimes say " and with rounds of 66,67,66 and 70 the winner is..."
Not with a 1st round of 4,4,5,4,3,3,4,3,4, etc
It's the big number at the end that really counts and as long as the number signed for isn't lower than the actual then, really, in the great scheme of things, should it be a problem?
I know what the rules say but in this day and age there shouldn't be a need for a dq like this, for what is essentially an admin error - especially when the big number at the end isnt different
Ultimately its Eddie's mistake.
D
Deleted member 1147
Guest
What about if there’s a tie & he ended up winning on count back?
Jacko_G
Blackballed
Love your way of thinking however professional golf is always play off. However at club level it's a whole new ballgame....
Lazkir
Head Pro
He gave the hole the finger after missing a putt.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
Is that really a dq?
If they bring in swearing as a dq, I would be lucky to get past the first hole.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
It depends what hole!
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
His latest tweet (about socks) may split opinion.
I thought it funny, but not linking as probably not appropriate for the forum
I thought it funny, but not linking as probably not appropriate for the forum
