People who don't repair their pitch marks - what's that all about???

Ours is bad at the moment, sometimes there 's pitchmarks within a foot of the flag.

The greens are pretti soft at the moment and even a short pitch leaves a mark.

Bunkers is real issue too, theres guys who play in front of us on a Saturday morning just walk into the bunker take their ball out and just walk out past the rake!!!!

I just don't understand it myself.
 
This threads a little bit like the slow play one. No-one but no-one will out themselves as one of the selfish twonks that can't be arsed to bend down and repair their own freshly created crater!

When I walk on the green I always try to find my own pitch mark and will happily repair whatever others I find in the process. Got to admit at my new place so far i'm quite lucky and they have an active policy of getting this issue addresses, even giving out club pitch mark repairers to new members with a little hint sheet on best practice. Though the caveat to this was I did make an enemy in my first outing at the place when after 6 holes of repairing oneof the other guys in my groups pitch mark I simply said "don't mind me i'll get yours again shall I" . Perhaps I went about addressing it the wrong way but at no time before my comment did he attempt to even locate his mark let alone repair it.

My old course was one of the worst though, being a muni we'd get a lot of non golfing guests that simply had no clue. Could have spent the whole day repairing pitch marks there and not go past the 1st green!
 
Fader said:
This threads a little bit like the slow play one. No-one but no-one will out themselves
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I don't know, maybe I'm being naive but most folk who are on here are passionate about golf, they have a healthy respect for the course, rules/etiquette and each other and would be the sort of player who repairs their own marks, I don't doubt anyone on this thread at least.

I often said anyone found wandering the course without a pitchfork should be asked to leave, it's only fair to everyone else who has paid their money and respects the turf that others play on. Then I saw a guy repairing his with a tee, so that plan was shot. :)
 
Curls said:
I don't know, maybe I'm being naive but most folk who are on here are passionate about golf, they have a healthy respect for the course, rules/etiquette and each other and would be the sort of player who repairs their own marks, I don't doubt anyone on this thread at least.

I often said anyone found wandering the course without a pitchfork should be asked to leave, it's only fair to everyone else who has paid their money and respects the turf that others play on. Then I saw a guy repairing his with a tee, so that plan was shot. :)
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I'm not saying people on here aren't the sort of person you describe, after all why would any of us come onto a forum if we were'nt just that type of person you describe. All i was saying is you will not get a single post of admission for being a guilty party on this matter much like when the slow play thread was out there its never us always someone else.
 
Fader said:
I'm not saying people on here aren't the sort of person you describe, after all why would any of us come onto a forum if we were'nt just that type of person you describe. All i was saying is you will not get a single post of admission for being a guilty party on this matter much like when the slow play thread was out there its never us always someone else.
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True for you, I guess the OP was letting off some steam and we've all been there, I suppose we're not looking for the answer why, I can never fathom why people have poor etiquette and then I remember, some people are just

I'll save you a job mods.
 
People who don't repair pitch marks or rake bunkers are unpleasant, they are undoubtedly the same people that put foreign coins in charity collection tins and are cruel to animals.
 
Maybe when we get on the first tee,firstly we should ask what ball your playing,
and then ask to see each others pitch repairer.
I played on Saturday with 3 others and i have to say i was impressed with the whole
ettiquette,rather enjoyable game.
 
We suffer from this same problem. In fact the club once closed one of the greens and used a tee to mark every unrepaired pitch mark on it to highlight how bad it is and they left it for a couple of weeks so all the members would see it. I believe there was well over 200 tees on that one particular green.
 
cookelad said:
Widespread problem I'm afraid!

I grew up (re Nick Faldo's Junior Masterclass video -not DVD) with the thought that you should walk on to a green and repair your own pitch mark and 1 other, and that if everyone did that eventually you wouldn't need to do the 1 other! In reality I repair any that I see not just those that are on or near my putting line!
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+1 (including the video bit! :( ) I repaired 15 across 2 par threes the other week at my home course.

Woodlands Manor used to have a list of holes with letters alongside them in the gents locker room. Match the initial letter of your surname to the relevant hole or holes, make sure as you played it that all the bunkers were raked and all the pitchmarks repaired. seemed to work well. anyone know if it is still in use there or anywhere else?
 
Our biggest problem is our sizable senior membership using the excuse they can't bend over to repair them but they are quick enough to bend over to pick up a coin or to mark and replace their ball. This then sets a precedent that the visiting players think they don't have to repair pitch marks even though there is a BIG sign as you walk from the car park to the first tee requesting you to do so.

I personally repair as many as I can each time I'm on a green normally between 5 and 10 when I'm playing in a group but I have repaired as many as TWENTY on ONE green while playing alone.
 
I played yesterday and although the greens are drying out there were still loads of fresh and unrepaired pitch marks. I don't think the seniors are the only culprits and although I watched three senior groups play the 9th while I putted and not one of the 10 repaired theirs or any others, 6 ladies in two groups followed and they did exactly the same and ignored any sign of a mark.

Sadly, notices get looked at in the locker room and then ignored. I do think pitch mark repairers need to be mandatory although how that is then policed once players are on the course is open to conjecture and frankly unmanageable. I hope as our greens improve from the moss infestation from several years ago, a degree of latent pride will come out and members will do their bit. I'm not holding my breath
 
I played on Saturday and was very disappointed to find lots of pitch marks on the greens, me and the chap I play with were repairing pitch marks all the way round. I have a thing about pitch marks so I am quite happy at repairing any I find where as Mark has a thing for bunkers, so between us the course gets a little tlc as we go round. Recently though I have become a little obsessive about the bunkers as well, as the greenkeepers have been digging them all out over the winter and the sand is so soft now its a crime not to make sure they are perfect. Pride in our courses I guess.
 
Like everyone has said it is a problem that is not only confined to pay and play clubs. We seem to have a greater issue certain days of the week and especially if you are following a visiting party. We even have a lidded lectern by the first tee which is full of pitch mark repairers for people to take but there has been no decrease in the problem.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
I do think pitch mark repairers need to be mandatory although how that is then policed once players are on the course is open to conjecture and frankly unmanageable.
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Homer, you're wasting your time mate. Those that are bothered will have a few in the bag, and it will make no difference to those who can't be bothered that they are carrying one.
 
I played last Friday pm and the combination of the light and the non-greenness of some of our "Greens" (they've gone a bit brown and manky in places) made it incredibly difficult to find the pitchmarks. I knocked in a wedge shot from 120 yards and it pitched and sat nicely on the green - could I find the pitchmark? Looked for 5 minutes from every angle - it had to be there somewhere but I sure as hell couldn't find it. Had to walk on in the end.....
 
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