Penalty?

[Orikoru]

In this scenario, are you not assuming that the player tees off from the red tee (wrong tee) and doesn't correct their mistake? If so, that is DQ anyway, not a 2 shot penalty. You only get a 2 shot penalty as long as you then go back and tee off the correct tee. (if I understood your scenario correctly)

Yeah, I figured that, that's why I thought simply counting the erroneous shot(s) would be enough of a penalty.

 

[bobmac]

The Club does not have the right (or the Committee) to waive the Rules of Golf. A more common rule break is players not signing a card. If the Committee do not have a Clear Sign to members that they need to sign their card, should they ignore the DQ rule?

See post no.112

 

[chrisd]

Yeah, I figured that, that's why I thought simply counting the erroneous shot(s) would be enough of a penalty.

Maybe you should take a 1 shot penalty and count the shot as well 😉

 

[Colin L]

To clarify the concept of potential advantage, I mean taking into account what might be gained by a player who breaches a rule but does not know it and plays on. I'd suggest the potential for gain by teeing off outside the teeing area is far greater than accidentally moving your ball, for example, and justifies the difference between the two stroke and the one stroke penalties.

 

[Orikoru]

Maybe you should take a 1 shot penalty and count the shot as well 😉

See that seems harsh doesn't it?

 

[chrisd]

See that seems harsh doesn't it?

Not in the least

 

[Colin L]

By the way, counting the "erroneous" shots would be inequitable as you could have one player with a one shot penalty and another with a 6 stroke penalty for the same breach.

 

[Slab]

I guess you just have to assume that the Rules of Golf are for all intent & purpose enforced by this fella



Debate, reason, fairness, circumstance, happenstance, takingastance, pity, pleading, rationale, luck & guile have no bearing

 

[chrisd]

By the way, counting the "erroneous" shots would be inequitable as you could have one player with a one shot penalty and another with a 6 stroke penalty for the same breach.

I was joking Colin 🤫

 

[Swinglowandslow]

I'm not often as blunt as this in this forum, but given all the explanations you have been offered with references to and quotations from the Rules, have you considered that you might just be a lone voice in the wilderness because you are plain wrong?

Course I've considered it. This isn't a matter of life or death, or even important.
It's just something of interest, that's all.
I might be right, or I might be wrong.
Why do you need to feel you have to be blunt ,as you put it ,because someone doesn't roll over to your opinion, or other opinions
It's just a forum and posts I find interesting. There's no malice or frustration on my part , because there isn't an agreement amongst us. Except an agreement to differ
As far as I'm concerned this discussion is a friendly one without any aggro intended to be given . Certainly none is received.
But it seems a good place to close .
Cheers😀

 

[Colin L]

The need to feel unusually blunt was because it isn't a matter of opinion, but a matter of what the text of the rules says. There is of course, scope for opinion about whether they should say what they say but it seemed, frustratingly, that several explanations (not just by me) of what the rule says and what that means for the player were being being taken as opinions, as points of view rather than as statements of the rules as they unarguably are. The smiley was intended to indicate lightheartedness and good humour despite the momentary exasperation. In the end, though, saying someone is wrong can't be other than blunt - but I'm not unfamiliar with bluntness when I get something about the rules wrong.

 

[Colin L]

I was joking Colin 🤫

I should have quoted. The point was made for someone else (can't remember who!).