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My 18 yr old daughter came home with a parking ticket the other day from where she works,it states,if you pay within 14 days,its £16,after that it goes up to £40,However,looking at the ticket,it says the car is Blue,and we have a Light Green Corsa,Does anyone think its worth appealing,as the facts are not correct.....
 
I would, Factually incorrect ticket

If he got the colour wrong, could he have got the Reg number wrong too

Nothing to lose if you appeal quickly

Fragger
 
My 18 yr old daughter came home with a parking ticket the other day from where she works,it states,if you pay within 14 days,its £16,after that it goes up to £40,However,looking at the ticket,it says the car is Blue,and we have a Light Green Corsa,Does anyone think its worth appealing,as the facts are not correct.....
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Rob .. is the ticket one from a parking attendant from the council or from a private parking company?

I can give some sound advice but I do need to know which type of ticket it is


Chris
 
Although Scottish law is different from the rest of the UK, as far as I am aware, private companies have no right by law to fine you for parking in private car parks. The best thing to do is to ignore the notice and don't enter into any correspondence.
They also have no right to ask who was the driver at the time of the offence. The only time you have to legally inform who the driver of a vehicle was is when asked by the police or relating to a speeding offence.PePiPoo is a very useful website. http://www.pepipoo.com/
 
My missus got off a ticket that was factually incorrect. It was easy. However, colour might not cut it.
Worth a try, sure. :)

I would.

b.t.w. it is illegal (under an act of Parliament) to enforce a ticket with factually incorrect details.

I quote (from one of my letters)

"Also, I must point out that under the Road Traffic Act 1991- Schedule 6 - Parking Penalties, ............... he (the warden) will have comitted an offence. Any person issuing a ticket “which is false in a material particular and does so recklessly or knowing it to be false in that particular is guilty of an offence”. (Road traffic act 1991).

It worked for us. :)
 
RGDave,And Everyone,Thanks for all your help,will draft a appeal letter in the morn,I know its only £16,but its the principal...
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This appears to be a PPC (private parking company) ticket and is therefore, nothing more than an invoice. It is unenforceable as they have penalised the car owner and not the only person that they could have a contract with - the driver. It may be that your daughter was the driver but they do not know and they would not dare risk trying to enforce the "fine" in court as they would not know that the person they issued a summons against was,in fact, the driver.

Look here http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?s=b50ddeb19dee6ff189f9cfae132105d1&showforum=30 to see all about parking fines. These people are experts on the subject.

They will certainly reject her appeal and make more and more threats to try and force payment, all of which are meaningless but that are designed to frighten her into paying. It doesn't matter wherther they got the car colour wrong, as it wouldnt have been even if it had it been a proper traffic warden ticket, Councils are allowed to make mistakes of colour etc on their tickets.

The only problem is that she will undoubtedly have to park in the same place again if it's her work place but it is illegal to clamp a vehicle for alleged unpaid debts that have not bee proven in court and a judgement obtained.

Clive said earlier about Pepipoo and this site is the fountain of all parking knowledge.

It is always best to totally ignore the demands as , if you appeal, they mark you down as a person "on the hook" ie someone who will pay if the exert enough pressure.

If you look on the link I gave you it is interesting to look at the Watchdog clip they refer to near the top of the page "Watchdog on PPC tickets" as its a solicitors view of PPC tickets

The Pepipoo advice is always to totally ignore all their letters as its just a business model based on threats and when they realise that the threats havn't got their money the give up. If, in the unlikely event (and its very rare indeed) that a PPC goes near a Court the Pepipoo boys would give a defence that the PPC would not beat and of course, losing in Court is something they darn't risk as it blows apart the validity of their business.

If Vinci are employed by the company she works for, maybe she should take it up with her management as they should know that the "fines" are totally unenforceable.


I used Pepipoo when my wife got one of the tickets and never paid it and I helped 2 people get of traffic warden tickets recently as they could prove, with advice from Pepipoo, that the parking on double yellow lines was within the particular Councils rules.


Chris
 
In which case if she was in the wrong and she got caught, she should pay the fine and move on.
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Have to say I agree.

If she parked "illegally" and got caught then "Man" up to it - she was in the wrong regardless of whether she was late or not.

Annoys me when people know they've done wrong and try to slither off the hook. For example, you know you were doing 50 in a 40 limit but because the PC's hat was on the wrong way round you can get off it? Perleease...!

Parking bays are there to make sure there's enough room to park - otherwise it's a free for all. park properly and there wont be a problem.
 
Fair enough Bob,Thats your opinion,But if you or I do not do our job correctly are we not culpable,The issue is not the fine ,its the fact that the attendant clearly got the car colour wrong!!!
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I see your point but I would say the issue is she was wrong and got caught.
She should hold her hand up, admit she was in the wrong, pay the fine and learn from the lesson.
 
In which case if she was in the wrong and she got caught, she should pay the fine and move on.
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Have to say I agree.

If she parked "illegally" and got caught then "Man" up to it - she was in the wrong regardless of whether she was late or not.

Annoys me when people know they've done wrong and try to slither off the hook. For example, you know you were doing 50 in a 40 limit but because the PC's hat was on the wrong way round you can get off it? Perleease...!

Parking bays are there to make sure there's enough room to park - otherwise it's a free for all. park properly and there wont be a problem.
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I agree, but I was annoyed when I got ticketed a few weeks ago. I was parked in a place I shouldn't have been, but I'd literally pulled up to drop off a computer in the computer shop about 3 doors down. Both computer shop spaces were parked in and there's no-where else to stop and there's not even a car park near by (not that I could have parked in there as it was a desktop server and heavy as chuff!) as it's outside the city centre (right by Gloucester Rugby's home ground), so I took the risk, was in the shop for no more than two minutes, and came out the shop to find parking fine dude printing me a ticket.

I was pee'd off, but I was in the wrong and paid the £35 (£70 if I hadn't paid it quick)...But there really should be more parking spaces round there! :mad:
 
I take a totally different line.

I do not condone parking on other peoples land when where and how you shouldn't, but, these parking companies charge whatever they conjure up in "fines" when someone only does a minor "transgression" and what they do is absolutely not backed by the law. So, the driver does something wrong and then the parking company heaps a huge (not so huge in this case) so called fine on them and then doubles and trebles it and makes all sorts of meaningless threats if they dont pay what is, after all, just an invoice.

The parking companies almost always wont go to court over their scam as they would never win a properly defended case, and they just use threats and intimidation to extort money from the motorist.

The problem then becomes - ok you may have done wrong by parking in a way that you shouldn't and they do wrong in the way that they try to extort money - they cannot legally fine anyone and so they should purely ask, in this case, for the money to cover their lost revenue (the parking fee) and maybe a fiver for a pre printed letter and stamp.

Look on Pepipoo.com under Parking and Decriminalised Notices and see just what these Companies get up to in their efforts to extort money from motorists.

The main issue is though, that these people have no legal right to issue a "fine" and frankly I could take all your registration numbers at your golf club, get your details from DVLC at a cost or £2.50 each and send you a fine for parking wrongly (any reason will do) and a good number of you would be frightened enough to pay.


I would just totally ignore the fine and they will go away eventually but anyone who will pay an invoice whether or not its justified , let me know and I will pop one in the post


Chris
 
I'd literally pulled up to drop off a computer in the computer shop about 3 doors down.
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Most Councils will cancel a ticket if you are parked whilst delivering/collecting and that is all you do and can prove it. You should have appealed when you got the NTO and you almost certainly would have got off


Chris
 
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