Outside to in swing.

[Moleman]

First time poster long time reader!

Playing for couple of years now and handicap is 19.

However my game is plagued by a horrible out to in swing, this is killing my power, direction and causes lots if nasty fat shots.

Any helpful drills, advice to get this under control much appreciated!

 

[In_The_Rough]

Welcome. I suspect you have a nice fade or slice to deal with. Have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrT1...xt=C380ff33UDOEgsToPDskJo3FM2iQvN7x2ZdO1JmroW

Wait for the crap advert to finish at the start and it will appear. Good luck:thup:

 

[bobmac]

It is the same as my head cover drill except.....
Because the out to in downswing creates a steep angle of attack, it's easy for the club to miss the first ball unless you place it quite close to your target ball which then restricts the backswing.

Secondly, if you're on a busy range and you get this drill wrong, you'll end up with balls flying all over the place which isn't ideal.

If you simply replace the outer 2 balls with head covers its much safer and more difficult to "cheat"

[video=youtube;KsrovFJ3o9I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=KsrovFJ3o9I[/video]

 

[leaney]

Welcome. I suspect you have a nice fade or slice to deal with. Have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrT1...xt=C380ff33UDOEgsToPDskJo3FM2iQvN7x2ZdO1JmroW

Wait for the crap advert to finish at the start and it will appear. Good luck:thup:

Great little clip!

 

[In_The_Rough]

As Bob quite rightly says do not do my example at the driving range only do it my way if you have a grass practice facility at your club or balls will go everywhere. If you do Bobs drill make sure you use 2 old headcovers you are not bothered about abusing as at the beginning you will probably give them a good old smack with you club or send them flying down the range . Either way both of the 2 methods will serve you well if done correctly. Stick with them and watch your slice/fade become a nice straight shot or dare I say it a Draw:thup:

 

[leaney]

It is the same as my head cover drill except.....
Because the out to in downswing creates a steep angle of attack, it's easy for the club to miss the first ball unless you place it quite close to your target ball which then restricts the backswing.

Secondly, if you're on a busy range and you get this drill wrong, you'll end up with balls flying all over the place which isn't ideal.


If you simply replace the outer 2 balls with head covers its much safer and more difficult to "cheat"

[video=youtube;KsrovFJ3o9I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=KsrovFJ3o9I[/video]

Great swing!

 

[In_The_Rough]

Great little clip!

Cheers I found it useful as well. As Bob says though only use this drill if you have an outdoor grass practice facility to use as it is lethal on a driving range.

 

[rickg]

Secondly, if you're on a busy range and you get this drill wrong, you'll end up with balls flying all over the place which isn't ideal.

If you simply replace the outer 2 balls with head covers its much safer and more difficult to "cheat"

I only had to retrieve my head covers 3 times....they go a lot further than you think.....

 

[Moleman]

Thanks for the quick reply!

Really nice vid, I have no doubt that my swing would collect all three balls so can't wait to try that out.

You are right about my slices, I also block the ball straight left the odd time if I swing with a closed club face.

 

[In_The_Rough]

Great swing!

That's why he's a pro and were not

 

[In_The_Rough]

Thanks for the quick reply!

Really nice vid, I have no doubt that my swing would collect all three balls so can't wait to try that out.

You are right about my slices, I also block the ball straight left the odd time if I swing with a closed club face.

No worries. Anymore swing advice Bob is your man he is the PGA Coach after all and not us hackers!!

 

[Foxholer]

I only had to retrieve my head covers 3 times....they go a lot further than you think.....

Vijay Singh recommends a large plastic fluid container.

Whatever method is used, it almost certainly fails to fix the fundamental cause though! Is stacking an adjustment onto a fault really good for the swing?

 

[bobmac]

Great swing!

Just some old codger

 

[rickg]

Whatever method is used, it almost certainly fails to fix the fundamental cause though! Is stacking an adjustment onto a fault really good for the swing?

Not sure I understand what you are getting at........this drill forces you to change your swing path..... to bring it down more on the inside....surely this is attempting to correct the swing fault?

 

[In_The_Rough]

Not sure I understand what you are getting at........this drill forces you to change your swing path..... to bring it down more on the inside....surely this is attempting to correct the swing fault?

Agreed the drill sorts out the out to in swing over time so in turn trains the body to move the club more on an inside path leading to straighter shots

 

[Foxholer]

Not sure I understand what you are getting at........this drill forces you to change your swing path..... to bring it down more on the inside....surely this is attempting to correct the swing fault?

The question to ask is 'Why was the swing path out-to-in in the first place'. Many of the possible causes are not addressed, but an i-to-o path is manufactured. Better to fix the cause, then use the drill as confirmation of cure.

 

[bobmac]

The question to ask is 'Why was the swing path out-to-in in the first place'. Many of the possible causes are not addressed, but an i-to-o path is manufactured. Better to fix the cause, then use the drill as confirmation of cure.

What would you suggest?

 

[Foxholer]

What would you suggest?

GSAP!

And if it was you, I'd ask you what was the fundamental cause. It might, of course, be my grip, or other aspect of my set-up, so I wouldn't expect to be simply told to use that drill.

 

[bobmac]

GSAP!

And if it was you, I'd ask you what was the fundamental cause. It might, of course, be my grip, or other aspect of my set-up, so I wouldn't expect to be simply told to use that drill.

So you're saying you want to know what causes the out to in swing and not just how to fix it?

 

[Foxholer]

So you're saying you want to know what causes the out to in swing and not just how to fix it?

Yep! That way I can Cure/Prevent it. Not just work around it with an adjustment.

Are you saying that you'd specify that drill as THE cure when I was setting up aiming left, with a dodgy grip and standing too close to the ball with weight on my toes and taking the club back on the outside with no hip or shoulder turn - any of which could trigger an out-to-in downswing?