Oscar Pistorius

Say what you want - but I don't thnk being crass is very clever.

Come on, if he wasn't famous but still happended to be disabled there would be no sympathy for him at all in shooting an innocent person at close range 4 times who was in all likelihood no threat to him at all. People are shocked by who it is when they should focus on what he's gone and done which is atrocious no matter what pressure or stress he may have felt under. If he was stressed out he should have been nowhere near guns.
 
I see in the papers today he been to court and next week he finds outs if he'll get bail, which the police have opposed, but should he get bail, will they give him an ankle tag?
 
Come on, if he wasn't famous but still happended to be disabled there would be no sympathy for him at all in shooting an innocent person at close range 4 times who was in all likelihood no threat to him at all. People are shocked by who it is when they should focus on what he's gone and done which is atrocious no matter what pressure or stress he may have felt under. If he was stressed out he should have been nowhere near guns.

I'm not saying for a second shooting someone dead is excusable - I'm just suggesting we might try and understand why he might have given his unique situation. The fact that he is so very famous and successful at the same time as being severly disabled cannot be dismissed as irrelevant. And I'm not suggesting that he was stressed, he may well have been - but he may also well have been mentally fragile and unstable - and that is not really his fault, it's just what mental illness is. Look at the way he reacted to not winning in the Olympics. Mentally he really struggled - he scrabbled around for a reason - anything. All his life he has been the best - always succeeded - despite his disability. Then all of a sudden and unexpectedly he doesn't win. He is not unbeatable. His underlying mental struggle of his constructed world of perfection against his knowing physical imperfections and weakness is exposed.
 
I see in the papers today he been to court and next week he finds outs if he'll get bail, which the police have opposed, but should he get bail, will they give him an ankle tag?

He may as well be given bail - where's he going to go - where's he going to hide. The only person he is a danger to at the moment is himself.
 
He may as well be given bail - where's he going to go - where's he going to hide. The only person he is a danger to at the moment is himself.

Tis a very good point that.

Just read on the BBC that he is denying the charge of premediated murder.

I doubt he'll be granted bail as they have said they don't want to show bias toward him with him being a celebriy.
 
Tis a very good point that.

Just read on the BBC that he is denying the charge of premediated murder.

I doubt he'll be granted bail as they have said they don't want to show bias toward him with him being a celebriy.

In which case he should be granted bail. Absolutely no point in having him detained. His days of detention are, most probably, coming in any case.
 
I'd argue the opposite, if he's in a bad mental state (as is alleged) he'd be better under police supervision in my view

Indeed may well be better for him if he is detained. Don't know what bail circumstances in SA are for someone accused of murder in any case. Tragic situiaton.
 
What about the first Amendment, free speech and all that.

And anyway, my theory was as much based on fact and evidence as yours was. And a lot more concise;).

What about it? We're not American and it doesn't fly here! Like pleading the fifth, we have no fifth amendment to plead!

I'd be peeved if I was walking around on blades all day, eggshells is bad enough!
 
In which case he should be granted bail. Absolutely no point in having him detained. His days of detention are, most probably, coming in any case.
No he just appears to have shot someone four times. What would his victims family feel if he is made a special case and let out on bail. I am sorry but your sympathy seems to be reserved for the wrong person.
 
No he just appears to have shot someone four times. What would his victims family feel if he is made a special case and let out on bail. I am sorry but your sympathy seems to be reserved for the wrong person.


What if he goes on the run?

I have a solution, but for fear of banhammering I shall remain silent.
 
Well reading the papers today, he's apparently shot his girlfrind 4 times through the closed bathroom door as she sat on the loo, also police have taken away a cricket bat that's covered in blood.
 
Well reading the papers today, he's apparently shot his girlfrind 4 times through the closed bathroom door as she sat on the loo, also police have taken away a cricket bat that's covered in blood.

I've only just caught up with this story this morning, (I hate watching news on TV life is too short for all that doom and gloom crap), this fella is going to get loads of public sympathy and has a great cover story. BUT....if he gets away with it, it will be a very sad day. I feel very sorry for the girls parents.
 
Is this actually possible??

Prosecutors accuse Mr Pistorius of premeditated murder. They say he shot his girlfriend dead deliberately, firing through a locked bathroom door.

How do you deliberately kill someone when you can't even see them? Sure you could TRY.
 
Is this actually possible??

How do you deliberately kill someone when you can't even see them? Sure you could TRY.

How do you claim the defence of "I thought it was a burglar" when you can't even see them..........? 3 bullets to the head and one to the body suggest to me that he could see very well who he was shooting at!
 
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