Oscar Pistorius Trial

[Fish]

Police crime scene work seems amateur and if they have nicked watches and moved objects around that could help Oscar get off with murder as tampered evidence may weaken prosecution.

I don't think it will have a bearing, well I hope not.

The law and rules of engagement over their are very strict and well laid out. Your life or that of someone close to you has to have their life in immediate danger for you to pull the trigger, you should never become the aggressor which in this case, a noise in the bathroom to an unknown, possibly unarmed trespasser does not warrant under any circumstances for him to discharge his weapon.

 

[sawtooth]

It's my opinion that Oscar is lying through his teeth, why the need to lie if you are innocent? Also,having watched a bit of the trial, he kinda appears to be making it up on the hoof. Anyone else get that feeling?

Yes, if he gets away with this I will be amazed.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Not seen much of the trial. Is it true that he turned up with his new bird?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

What new g/f ?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

From what I've seen and heard I have a feeling he'll get done for manslaughter. Might be wrong (again). I don't buy all this crying and remorse act in the witness box when the questions get tough

 

[Sharktooth]

Blubbed again today. This trial must be costing a chuffing fortune. 40 more witnesses to stand

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Yes, if he gets away with this I will be amazed.

So you've already found him guilty

 

[harpo_72]

I thought the prosecution was losing it with his stunts and poor questioning.

The other thing I would say or ask any of you is, have you woken up from a nightmare and found yourself in different parts of the house or a room? I have I really struggled with it when I was traveling abroad and staying in different hotels. My wife has caught me in different parts of the bedroom having stand up arguments etc ... The good thing is we don't have guns, so I cannot subconsciously grab it and fire it.... Anyway I'll get my coat now I probably wound everyone up with that comment.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I watched the prosecution yesterday and he tied Pistorius up in knots about the fan/s and duvet, then he (Pistorius) said he saw a silhouette but was always saying before it was pitch black and couldn't see anything! He said he didn't see or hear her move but when looking at the picture and diagram of the room, anyone with the slightest amount of paranoia, which Pistorius definitley has, I find that impossible.

As the prosecutor said yesterday, Pistorius is 'adapting' his defence now as he doesn't accept any responsibility, everything is about him and he is running out of answers.

Guilty

Low blow that Fish :rofl:

 

[Sharktooth]

I thought the prosecution was losing it with his stunts and poor questioning.

The other thing I would say or ask any of you is, have you woken up from a nightmare and found yourself in different parts of the house or a room? I have I really struggled with it when I was traveling abroad and staying in different hotels. My wife has caught me in different parts of the bedroom having stand up arguments etc ... The good thing is we don't have guns, so I cannot subconsciously grab it and fire it.... Anyway I'll get my coat now I probably wound everyone up with that comment.

I really doubt you have been following it and maybe just getting the highlights on News at Ten. That prosecutor is a very, very clever bloke and can see straight through the tears and snotturs. As far as your second paragraph goes... well, we all did drugs at one point in our lives.

 

[harpo_72]

I really doubt you have been following it and maybe just getting the highlights on News at Ten. That prosecutor is a very, very clever bloke and can see straight through the tears and snotturs. As far as your second paragraph goes... well, we all did drugs at one point in our lives.

I not quite sure admitting to taking drugs is relevant to my post ... Would you like to clarify your remark?

 

[Matty2803]

As it is the school holidays on Scotland, I've watched the trial closely, although I have been playing golf too!

My questions are - After Mr Nel coming down on Oscar like a ton of bricks when he said "I may have turned the Alarm off" - he earlier said "I turned the alarm off". Did Reeva turn the alarm off?

Was Reeva going to escape out the window? So meaning they had an argument? Why would she not just go out the door? Had Pistorius threaten her?

 

[guest100718]

I hear it being talked about at work, but I find it hard to think of something I could care less about.

 

[FairwayDodger]

How many people lock the bathroom door when they get up for a pee in the middle of the night and their partner is the only other person in the house?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

How many people lock the bathroom door when they get up for a pee in the middle of the night and their partner is the only other person in the house?

Even if only a very few do then so could Ms Steenkamp

 

[chrisd]

As far as your second paragraph goes... well, we all did drugs at one point in our lives.

Speak for yourself!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

How many people lock the bathroom door when they get up for a pee in the middle of the night and their partner is the only other person in the house?

I do out of habit though

Makes my missus laugh

So looking at a few summaries i still think it will be manslaughter not murder he will be sent down for ( can that happen ) ?

The retching and crying etc could easily go against him

But if OJ can be found not guilty then who knows

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Speak for yourself!

Exactly - never touched them ( well bar painkillers etc )

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Nels is pointing out lots of things that though each may be quite possible (locking the loo door etc) are not common. Pile them all one on top of the other and you get a case of a lot of small probabilities than can add up to appear significant.

Unfortunately many a flawed business case has been made on the aggregation of a lot of small probables creating something significant. And guess what - none of the small probables come to pass and the aggregation of a lot of diddly squat is diddly squat.

 

[mikee247]

I think personally that his excuses and statements are being ripped apart and the crying etc is a cover to try and convince the judge otherwise. Interesting that this guys life/sentence is going to judged by only one person and not 12. I wouldn't like to be the judge in this.....there are far to many holes in his defence, you just wouldn't shoot at something you cant see or ID with your other half somewhere in the vicinity. Hes got plenty of previous of aggression, mental torture and a proven gun culture background... They are now suggesting he should have gone for a different plea and agreed on a lesser sentence as I think this guy is going to do some serious time whatever the outcome..... Not a leg to stand on I think!!