No more Winter Rules.....

[wjemather]

After that rain over the weekend yes and no.!

We have two very different halves.
Top 8 holes are on sandstone and drain very well.
Back 10 are down a very big hill and at the bottom gets wet but drains slower.

We are getting mud on the ball a lot.

Sounds like you're saying that relief is only needed on a specific part of the course that would be easy to define, and that only cleaning the ball (E2) is needed rather than preferred lies (E3).

 

[wjemather]

Why would preferred lies being on for adverse weather or poor quality of fairways due to said adverse conditions ever be deemed as unacceptable ?

Not being flippant genuine question as someone who doesn’t really think too much about this sort of stuff

In general, Rule 8 - Course Played as It Is Found applies, and special relief measures are only allowable for limited reasons, e.g. to maintain fairness, protect the course, or for safety.

Adverse weather does not routinely require any special relief measures.
Poor quality of fairways would only require special relief measures if such conditions are abnormal; when such conditions are usual they are accounted for in the course ratings.
Abnormal conditions that do not affect the entire course do not necessitate course-wide special relief measures (i.e. relief should only be afforded on areas of the course where it is necessary).
The appropriate MLR for when balls are routinely picking up mud is E-2 (lift, clean, replace), not E-3 (preferred lies).
Etc.

 

[clubchamp98]

Sounds like you're saying that relief is only needed on a specific part of the course that would be easy to define, and that only cleaning the ball (E2) is needed rather than preferred lies (E3).

Havnt played all week so it’s up to the GK and comittiee.
But I would think most parkland courses now would be quite wet.
They are in the north west!

Certainly need to clean the ball

 

[rulefan]

Havnt played all week so it’s up to the GK and comittiee.
But I would think most parkland courses now would be quite wet.
They are in the north west!

Certainly need to clean the ball

Use E-2

 

[clubchamp98]

Use E-2

History is they just put PL Oct to May.

Wait and see what they do this year

 

[woofers]

I tend to agree with this:

Why have we got so precious about preferred lies? - National Club Golfer | National Club Golfer

Golf is not always supposed to hand you a perfect lie, says our club golf editor, it’s meant to see what you do when it doesn’t

www.nationalclubgolfer.com

 

[Springveldt]

Just got email informing us PL will be in place from 6th October until further notice.

We've had PL on (LR E-3) since the 26th September. Fairways are patchy as hell on all the fairways close to the sea, some of the more inland ones are more playable. According to the course manager it seems 2 types of unwanted grass have died out with the drought conditions and it's giving him the chance to seed the fairways with the grass he wants to use. He seemed quite pleased in his email about certain grass types dying on the fairway as it saves him having to chemically remove them.

 

[peld]

was pleasantly surprised to see they have rated a winter course at our place including changing the stroke indexes to something a lot more sensible.
Winter rules start in our winter league tomorrow but we dont move to winter course until 1 Nov.