No 1 Swing Fundamental

[SocketRocket]

Here is another top notch coach who has lost his way (Glad it's not just me) He actually calls it 'Spine Angle' and not 'Forward tilt' James, call out the Semantics Police :thup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH-e0WvxwPI

 

[Foxholer]

You are confusing me

Read the original post where I asked that question. Those vids show non-straight left arms which was what I had highlighted in my quote - 'Why keep the left arm straight'.

Spine angle is a component of the 14 Principles - most, if not all, of the Direction ones. One of the Limitless Preferences, but obviously a popular/desirable one.

http://quizlet.com/1619293/laws-and-principles-of-the-golf-swing-flash-cards/


Now, enough semantics. Just smack that li'l round white thing hard; find it and hit it again!

 

[SocketRocket]

Read the original post where I asked that question. Those vids show non-straight left arms which was what I had highlighted in my quote - 'Why keep the left arm straight'.

Spine angle is a component of the 14 Principles - most, if not all, of the Direction ones. One of the Limitless Preferences, but obviously a popular/desirable one.



http://quizlet.com/1619293/laws-and-principles-of-the-golf-swing-flash-cards/


Now, enough semantics. Just smack that li'l round white thing hard; find it and hit it again!

Still confused. I would say that a really straight left arm is not compulsary. I still think you were suggesting the vids showed pros that changed their spine angle.

 

[SocketRocket]

Damn!! Marc is another for the semantic sin bin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHQRN8-TsRg

 

[JustOne]

Damn!! Marc is another for the semantic sin bin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHQRN8-TsRg

What's your point?

Is the concept of your spine moving from a forward bend into more of a side bend at the top of the backswing too complicated to grasp? I could write in crayon if it would help?

If Mark Crossfield chooses to explain it as 'maintaining a spine angle' to help people like you understand some basic golf swing moves then that's great... don't forget to close your stance to hit those draws! :thup:

 

[JustOne]

[video=youtube;283S9HgCZmw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=283S9HgCZmw[/video]

Nuff said.

 

[SocketRocket]

What's your point?

Is the concept of your spine moving from a forward bend into more of a side bend at the top of the backswing too complicated to grasp? I could write in crayon if it would help?

If Mark Crossfield chooses to explain it as 'maintaining a spine angle' to help people like you understand some basic golf swing moves then that's great... don't forget to close your stance to hit those draws! :thup:

Close your stance to hit draws, have you been smoking something? Crayon would be Ok as we would not want to take you out your comfort zone. I was making basic golf swing moves when you were in short pants. Mark likes to help people rather than confuse them with nit picking detail, just like, Hmmm! just like, well not you is it.

Oh! while we are getting on so well, what do you think of these MP63's

 

[JustOne]

I was making basic golf swing moves when you were in short pants.

I've made it to long trousers now.... I'm guessing your swing hasn't moved on from the basic stuff though?


Do you reckon you could even hit MP63's?

 

[CrapHacker]

Actually they are not.

You can aim left or right and still hit the ball towards the target, you can grip strong or weak and still hit it towards the target... you can even lose your spine angle and still hit it towards the target.... or like yourself you can do all 3 and occasionally hit it towards the target

There are no fundamentals in the swing, only principles, of which I'd put 'maintaining a steady head' as No1.


A fundamental of getting the ball to move would be hitting the ball before the ground :thup:

Ahhhh

But there I disagree....

You have to aim somewhere to hit the ball. You have to have to grip the club somehow otherwise you are going to decapitate someone. You can be upright or bent double, but your spine has an angle to your lower body, be it 90* or 180* or something in between. You have to move your arms backwards and forwards, whilst holding the club.

Fundamentally you have to do these things otherwise you can't physically hit the damn thing.

Now anybody can do them differently, but for the majority of people, it helps to keep these things simple. Therefore it helps most people to aim at the target. It helps most players to have a reasonably neutral grip. It makes life easier for most golfers if they don't jump up and down halfway through the swing.

A fundamental is something that has to be done. You have to hit the golf ball. To hit it you have to swing the club. To swing the club you have to do all the things I've mentioned and many more besides

But every golfer has to do all those things.

They are fundamental to being a golfer. If you could just walk up and kick the ball it would be different. But you can't.

So it isn't.

Annnnd finally I'll have you know that the vast majority of my shots involve me hitting the ground a heck of a lot earlier than I hit the ball.




And if you are going to play golf most people want to be at least semi successful at it. Which means that aiming in the right direction is pretty important. If you don't get the damn wee round thing in the hole it's going to be a long round.

One might even say that's the single most important fundamental of the whole game.

Mighten one???

 

[SocketRocket]

I've made it to long trousers now.... I'm guessing your swing hasn't moved on from the basic stuff though?


Do you reckon you could even hit MP63's?

Grow Up James. You know nothing about my swing and I dont understand why you have the need to criticise somthing you have no knowlege of. You may notice that I have not made any reference to your golfing skills as I have not had the pleasure of seeing them. I have given you the benifit of the doubt in the past but I now see why so many others get frustrated with your resentless criticism and unreasonable bigotry.

I happen to play Mizuno blades by the way and quite well.

 

[richart]

Steady head for me, even if it does mean agreeing with James.

 

[JustOne]

Grow Up James. You know nothing about my swing

You're right, I apologise.. I'm interested to see this swing that 'maintains' it's spine angle

 

[SocketRocket]

You're right, I apologise.. I'm interested to see this swing that 'maintains' it's spine angle

I said 'Spine Angle' Shawn Clements said 'Spine Angle' Mark Crossfield said 'Spine Angle' and so on and so forth. OK, you are technically correct in that it is the 'Forward Tilt' that has to be maintained but I and you know and they all know exactly what they are refering to. Lets just stop the disagreeing for the sake of nit picking detail please.

 

[JustOne]

Lets just stop the disagreeing for the sake of nit picking detail please.

You could just agree with me sooner

 

[SocketRocket]

You could just agree with me sooner

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