New Labour Leader

[SocketRocket]

It wasn't a landslide - Tony Blair had landslides - and even if you consider that it was - that means nothing since many voters voted Tory holding their nose - disgusted by the antics of Johnson. I don't need reminded about Labour - I didn't vote for them - and beside - Labour are not in government...

It was a landslide. When you consider the number of seats won by the SNP and the forecasted seats by the LibDems an 80 seat majority is amazing. Starmer seems to me a typical Civil Servant paper pusher who is out of his depth as a minister, he has an aura of the left wing elitists who the party have just rejected.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Like him or loath him it is curious that when interviewed they kept asking him why the public could 'relate' to him. Reports I've seen suggest that other country leaders are also able to relate to him !!

King 'o the Midden.
Hard to believe that you could get four other UK wide political party leaders who were even less competent than Johnson.
Winner of the losers race.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Listening to AN interviewing Lisa Nandy I couldn't help but think that whenever he asked her about such as experience, trustworthiness, background, competency, authenticity, relateability - she must have been sorely tempted to reflect that if Johnson can become Prime Minister then such things are relatively unimportant. But she - and the other candidates - know that it is pointless making such a comparison.

Thought she was good. Don't know if she'll get the Trades Union backing each needs.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Rumours going around that Jess Philips is about to withdraw as she can not get the required backing of unions and consituency parties. A great shame that the system works this way. It really should be down to the MP's and the members alone.

Two down, four to go.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Rumours going around that Jess Philips is about to withdraw as she can not get the required backing of unions and consituency parties. A great shame that the system works this way. It really should be down to the MP's and the members alone.

Two down, four to go.

Pity - was liking what JP was saying...but not too hung up about it as for me Lisa Nandy addresses the same constituency in the same way. Age-wise - clearly not too young at 40 as Blair had just turned 41 when he became leader of the party in 1994.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Jess Philips withdraws and Lisa Nandy gets support of GMB Union...so she's still running...

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Nandy and Thornbury both absolutely clueless about what is actually occurring in Scotland and emphasising why Labour will never re-gain any kind of power base there.
Tartan Tories. indeed.

 

[Dando]

Nandy and Thornbury both absolutely clueless about what is actually occurring in Scotland and emphasising why Labour will never re-gain any kind of power base there.
Tartan Tories. indeed.

to be fair you could've just stopped after the 6th word

 

[Taz]

ET doing her bit for Anglo/Scottish relationship

https://twitter.com/x/status/1221704750309302273

 

[Doon frae Troon]

ET doing her bit for Anglo/Scottish relationship

https://twitter.com/x/status/1221704750309302273

She actually hates the SNP for successfully adopting policies that any sensible Labour party would have adopted.
I can understand her hurt, but Hey Ho let's just keep dragging the Labour party to the far left to counter attack the far right Tory government.
Avoid popular middle road policies at any cost.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Interesting reading of quite large numbers of new Labour Party members - intent on voting anyone but RL-B..

 

[MegaSteve]

She actually hates the SNP for successfully adopting policies that any sensible Labour party would have adopted.
I can understand her hurt, but Hey Ho let's just keep dragging the Labour party to the far left to counter attack the far right Tory government.
Avoid popular middle road policies at any cost.

I am going to suggest it's more to do with a previous SNP leaders stated intent to punish 'ordinary' Londoners... As a London MP that wouldn't have gone down well with her constituents...

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I am going to suggest it's more to do with a previous SNP leaders stated intent to punish 'ordinary' Londoners... As a London MP that wouldn't have gone down well with her constituents...

Let it go, I think it is probably only you who remembers that.
Nicola has been boss for nearly six years now.

 

[patricks148]

Interesting reading of quite large numbers of new Labour Party members - intent on voting anyone but RL-B..

the new members maybe, but the few hundred thousand who voted in Jezza last time may think different

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

the new members maybe, but the few hundred thousand who voted in Jezza last time may think different

Sadly probably true. If they do then for me it would be as if they had a death wish for the Labour party.

 

[patricks148]

Sadly probably true. If they do then for me it would be as if they had a death wish for the Labour party.

thing is though, many many labour memebers want a more socialist Labour party, middle of the road little different from middle of the road conservative or Liberal, is going to make the changes to improve society..

Alas i think labour has had its day, i'm all right jackism and people happy to be fed lies about what going on in Britain have seen to that.

when are you moving to the socialst Utopia of Scotland

 

[IanM]

When does "more socialist" dip into Marxism?

Maybe a hard leftist, without a history of supporting our enemies could have won the election?

 

[patricks148]

When does "more socialist" dip into Marxism?

Maybe a hard leftist, without a history of supporting our enemies could have won the election?

i doubt it the media would have used something against them. who are "our Enemies" then?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

thing is though, many many labour memebers want a more socialist Labour party, middle of the road little different from middle of the road conservative or Liberal, is going to make the changes to improve society..

Alas i think labour has had its day, i'm all right jackism and people happy to be fed lies about what going on in Britain have seen to that.

when are you moving to the socialst Utopia of Scotland

A big question for Labour is whether, by following a Corbyn trajectory, they'd ever be able to get 40 seats in Scotland...(yes - I know that 'ever' implies a very long time...but let's say within then next 10yrs)

- moving is still on the agenda...and my Fortrose cousins would have us move there...but methinks that as much as my wife gets on great with these cousins and loves the Inverness area - it's probably just a bit of a stretch from Surrey.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

i doubt it the media would have used something against them. who are "our Enemies" then?

You are a Naught boy
I shall have a stab at 'people who are not like us '. Followed by 'people who don't think like us'. then 'people who don't like us'.