New clubs, should I buy, or should I wait?

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I've recently started playing golf regularly again, and my game is steadily improving. My clubs are just a cheap set of Dunlops from sports direct, although I have replaced the driver with a Cobra amp cell s, and the putter with a Benross casino poker. Now I know the Dunlop clubs are cheap rubbish, but I do hit the irons pretty well, and I know at some point I will benefit from buying a set of better clubs. However what I can't work out is, how much more should I try to improve playing with the clubs I have before I consider buying something better, what targets should I reach before I justify the expense?
 

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I would have said the only thing to justify the expense would be how much use you would get out of them.

No matter how good you get you're not going to earn any money at it, so there really is no 'target' at which you can say they are now worth it.
 

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I'm with Region3, but will go further

what exactly is this 'I will benefit from' that you mention?

how would you feel if they looked good in the bag, but you couldn't play any better with them? If the answer to this is 'fine' then by all means spend your money.

as with most sports equipment; it's only really when the equipment is holding you back that it becomes an easy decision to upgrade.

what you have is fundamentally sound and capable of supporting a relatively high standard of golf quite easily. you will know when it's holding you back.

typically you would add a quality wedge of around 52 degrees and a reasonable quality 4/5 wood or 3 hybrid (all bought second hand as others want more shiny clubs in their bag) rather than replace what you currently have.
 

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You don't say of you've had any lessons. Lessons from a good Pro are the best value-for-money spend in golf. The pro can probably go round in level par with your 'cheap rubbish' Dunlops. If you get some lessons I'm sure he can advise if a more forgiving set of irons would be useful to you.
 

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I don't yet have a handicap, but using an online calculator, it has come back with 23.

Not sure what my average distance is with my new driver, but I regularly hit 260 yard drives. And I can hit my 7 160yds plus on a good day.

I play at least twice a week, more if I can, I managed 4 rounds last week.

Never had a lesson ever, but I'm generally quite happy with the way I'm playing and the way my game is improving.

I'm not considering spending a fortune, just £200-300 on a set of decent irons. My scores were improving by 2 shots every 4 weeks (currently shooting low 90s), but that seems to be slowing down now. As I've already said, I play and practice as often as I can, so getting the use out of them would not be an issue. I certainly don't expect to make any money out of them, I just want to keep improving and getting more enjoyment out of the game.

When I say benefit, I mean potentially improve further by playing with clubs that are of higher quality than the ones I currently have.
 

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To be fair, the Dunlop clubs don't look bad in my bag, I'm not that interest in what they look like anyway, it's more about how the quality of them, and whether or not I should consider replacing them for something that is of better quality. I know that at the end of the day it all comes down to the soggy organic bit on the rubber end of the club, but there must be some merit in having better quality equipment. I very much doubt there's any research and devepment done by Dunlop, unlike the known golf club manufacturers.
 

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I very much doubt there's any research and devepment done by Dunlop, unlike the known golf club manufacturers.

such thinking is hugely flawed

almost certainly the clubs marketed by Dunlop recently are manufactured by another company, who may or may not have developed the model or purchased the rights etc etc - then again when I bought my first set of forged Dunlop tour blades they were at the forefront of design and manufacture :)

wasn't that long ago when Nike didn't do anything except put their logo on clubs (and many would suggest that's still the case with all their products but that's another argument!)

they either work for you or they don't - from the number you are quoting they clearly do currently.
 

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You seem to be playing quite well with good shots, the only thing is probably inconsistency. I was in the same boat 4 or 5 years ago so I bit the bullet and upgraded which was the best thing I done. I bought a set of Cobra S2s that knocked 3 shots off on average due to the fact they're really forgiving and longer with green holding spin on the shorter irons
If you are serious about the game there are plenty of game improvement clubs out there from the top makers, but don't get caught up with all the hype, I don't think they've drastically improved over the past 4 years that players of our level would appreciate
Enjoy
 
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I do see your point Duncan, and the Dunlop clubs do serve me well, but I since replacing the Dunlop driver with a Cobra driver that cost more than the entire Dunlop package set, I'm beginning to question the quality of the Dunlops, and ask how much would my game improve with a set of clubs that of comparable quality to my Cobra Driver.

Huwey12 you're pretty spot on. I generally hit the ball really well, and my swing and grip are pretty consistent, but I can play what feels like a pretty good shot, only to watch the ball do something completely different to what it did the last time I played the same shot.
I'm very serious about the game, which is why I'm considering investing in a better set of clubs.
 
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Yes, inconsistency is either caused by your clubs or by yourself, buying a top makers set will sort out half the problem, letting you concentrate on improving your game
I can pick up a Dunlop iron for £6 in Sports Direct which shows the quality of the materials they use. You might find a good one eventually
 

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As I've already said the Dunlops have served me well. When I played a less than 6 times a year, but now that I'm playing 2 or more times a week, and my game is steadily improving, I don't think they are as good.
 
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I think that my game could improve further with better clubs. This has become more apparent since I upgraded my driver. I think I could improve a little further with the Dunlops, but I'm beginning to feel that I will just be fighting with them to save 1 shot every now and then because of the lack of consistency they give.
 

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Don't get me wrong, Dunlops are ideal for the beginner and once/twice a year player. The inconsistency comes through the manufacturing process. I had a Dunlop driver that you could twist the shaft axially (torque) so you didn't know where the face would be at impact
Bite the bullet and get a top makers set with well proven shafts. No need to buy new, you can get a set of a 4 year old model for just over £100 and your game will improve. Also it removes that nagging doubt of is it you or the clubs
A minimum ideal set would be 5 to pitching wedge so you can add wedges as you go. Longer than 5 Iron you can use a rescue wood such as a TM burner 4
For the irons Big Berthas are a good shout
 

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That's basically why I changed the driver. I definitely think second hand will buy me more club for my money. I like the idea of replacing long irons with hybrids, as I hit my current hybrid really well, I've seen lots of 5-SW set about for good money. I've also thought about replacing one club at a time, more costly I know, but it would spread the cost nicely.
 

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Ok so I have bitten the bullet, and splashed out on a set of Taylor Made Rocket Bladez!! 5-SW with graphite shafts £126 (inc P&P). Wedges and hybrids are on next months shopping list.
 

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Not tried them yet, it was an impulse eBay purchase, I figured that if I don't get on with them, they'll be well worth what I paid for them if I sell them. However having read a lot of good things about them, I think I have bought a great set of irons.
I'm now looking for a 3 wood, a couple of hybrids and a decent 60° lob wedge to complete my club upgrade.
 
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Have a look on eBay for wedges, there's a defunct American company called Nickent some bodies importing them on sale for £17 pick up at your local Argos and they're new. I'm tempted myself
 
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