Most people should be playing 5,500 yard courses with no rough.

Agreed, there's a couple of holes at my place I hit 6 or 7 iron of the tee from the whites, because the landing area for a driver is too narrow, par them 85% of the time too

our 10th hole (1st bloody hole winter set up) is either two 6 irons or a driver and wedge. i go two 6 irons as theres a big lake left and OB right. safty first. still a handy enough par. its the player that makes the hole s difficult as it is.
 
We have 3 par 4 holes that I struggle to hit with a driver and a 3 wood. Far too long for the average golfer in my opinion.
 
My course is 6600 yards, approx off the blocks. A good test. It doesn't need to be longer. I'm not sure I would be happy with it being 1000 yards shorter, as it is off the winter tees, all year round.

I love it off the blocks. Cracking course.
 
My course is 6600 yards, approx off the blocks. A good test. It doesn't need to be longer. I'm not sure I would be happy with it being 1000 yards shorter, as it is off the winter tees, all year round.

I love it off the blocks. Cracking course.

Same as Murph here mine is around 6300m off the whites and when the wind blows (as it usually does) it is a right old slog. Some of the time we go to slightly forward tees but it is not really much different, 6100m? off the yellows! Combine the length with rough the just eats up a golf ball and it means a course that does wear you down quite quickly!
 
Been to a number of resort type courses with my wife to play golf. It's great midweek when it's quiet, but, on a Saturday or Sunday you've got the 'Maurice Flitcroft' type of golfer, usually in an outing, who wants to play off the Whites (or Worse). Whilst he may be enjoying shooting a career best(sorry, highest) those watching and waiting behind are lost for words. I've seen guys who stand on the tee and have 240 to the fairway...... they've not hit a 240yd drive onto a fairway all day !

Great if the starter aks what your playing off and politely suggests you may want to try the Whites or Greens or Yellows, but to stroll up and say, 'back pegs for me' is just plain stupind IMO.

Watched a fouball in front of us play the par 3 5th at Cardronna and not one of them cleared the water hazard in front of the green off the tee they were playing off. It's only a 4 iron at best and it's usually wind assisted.
 
even at long par fours, you worst you should be doing is a bogey. lay up to 100 yards. hit on and two putts. this is achieveable for everyone if they put their mind to it.

I don't think it's as simple as that.

Maybe I have low expectations but from 100yds I'd be happy hitting the green 8/10. Obviously I wouldn't be happy the 2 times I missed it but you know what I mean.

How often would you expect a 28hc to hit a green from 100yds?
 
I think I'd get bored with a course as short as 5,500yds.

I've played off the red tees at my place and although it's good as a novelty I wouldn't want to do it all the time. Maybe it's the course's fault for not being interesting enough?

Even for a short course that you really have to think your way around, once you've played it a few times you've figured out what each tee shot needs so you don't have to think as much any more.
 
i can see you play to 8. those two times you say you miss the green from 100yards im sure you make a damm good attempt at an up and down. being able to get these up and downs can make the difference between a good and a bad round.

what i am saying is, all the par 4's should be reachable in 3 shots. if not then you are playing a course that is above your level. these are 3 conservative enough shots. obviously if you bust it as far as poss and it goes in the trees then your in trouble.

a 28 handicapper will do himself no harm standing at the 100 yard marker and fireing balls in for practice. if you struggle to hit 100 yards in a realitively straight fashion with pw,9 or 8 then the game is going to prove difficult on the whole.
 
i can see you play to 8. those two times you say you miss the green from 100yards im sure you make a damm good attempt at an up and down. being able to get these up and downs can make the difference between a good and a bad round.

what i am saying is, all the par 4's should be reachable in 3 shots. if not then you are playing a course that is above your level. these are 3 conservative enough shots. obviously if you bust it as far as poss and it goes in the trees then your in trouble.

a 28 handicapper will do himself no harm standing at the 100 yard marker and fireing balls in for practice. if you struggle to hit 100 yards in a realitively straight fashion with pw,9 or 8 then the game is going to prove difficult on the whole.

Yes, of all the things that affect my score, how my short game is on any given day is the biggest influence.

My point really, was my opposition to the statement (that I see a lot, not just here) that laying up to 100 guarantees no worse than a bogey. I'm perfectly capable of thinning it 30yds through the green or fatting it 50yds, and that doesn't even take into account being unlucky of 3-putting.

Agree 100% about the practice from 100yds though.
 
my course is 6300 yards but soon to be longer with additional tees,and i find it long enough and a good test anything shorter and it would not be testing enough.
 
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