Minimum Alcohol Pricing

[williamalex1]

Just means they'll fewer poor alkies , and more rich alkies.:cheers: hic

 

[Tashyboy]

I suggest that 'sensible' drinkers do not drink enough (that's why they are sensible) for even significant increases in the cost of drink to make a lot of difference. And if it did - then as sensible drinkers they would just cut down.

Fully understand that SILH, but I think the majority of drinkers are sensible, I don't see why they should have to pay more because of the senseless few. The sensible ones will think "sod it' " I am not paying that. The irresponsible ones will moan and forget about it after the second drink.
A few years ago when my lad started drinking he went out with a pal at the time. Went round to his house and then onto summat called a "bus". Anyway when he got round to his pals. His dad had bought them half a bottle of vodka to have as a "loosener" before they got onto said bus.
Thats the kind of mentality that is wrong.
Last couple of days I have been in magistrates courts and the amount of people going through the courts where drink and drugs is a factor in them being there is frightening. Combined with the "assault" on both the police and partners/ public is shocking. To hear people say " I don't remember" because they were drunk. I cannot understand that. When I have had enough there is summat in my head that says "Jim jams and cocoa time".
we have not even touched on the health side of the subject.

 

[bluewolf]

Yup, because all evidence shows that when something that people are addicted to becomes too expensive, then they just decide to stop partaking.. Can't see a single flaw in this plan whatsoever.. It's almost perfectly simplistic..

 

[Doon frae Troon]

It is unit priced so it will only really affect fortified wine, synthetic white cider and the lowest priced vodka/whisky firewater.
If you think that we shall see massive warehouses selling that in Berwick on Tweed I think you are mistaken.

BTW it is a vote winner for the Scottish Government.

Interesting times ahead if/when the Scottish judges decide to support the Scottish government.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Tashy - You are right. One thing alone will not solve this, it needs a package of measures and a cultural change is a massive requirement. However every journey starts with a first step, (I possibly pinched that from Kung Fu, ha ha).

Gandhi

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Did he pinch it from David Carradine? Careful, we might raise the tone of the forum, quoting Gandhi indeed.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Fully understand that SILH, but I think the majority of drinkers are sensible, I don't see why they should have to pay more because of the senseless few. The sensible ones will think "sod it' " I am not paying that. The irresponsible ones will moan and forget about it after the second drink.
A few years ago when my lad started drinking he went out with a pal at the time. Went round to his house and then onto summat called a "bus". Anyway when he got round to his pals. His dad had bought them half a bottle of vodka to have as a "loosener" before they got onto said bus.
Thats the kind of mentality that is wrong.
Last couple of days I have been in magistrates courts and the amount of people going through the courts where drink and drugs is a factor in them being there is frightening. Combined with the "assault" on both the police and partners/ public is shocking. To hear people say " I don't remember" because they were drunk. I cannot understand that. When I have had enough there is summat in my head that says "Jim jams and cocoa time".
we have not even touched on the health side of the subject.

If only it was just a few. Stat I heard on 'mad Friday' (btw - isn't it a hoot with loads of us going out and getting plastered so let's make it a special day and give it a name) was that 1 in 6 of us have a drink problem. That's a lot of millions of folk...

As an aside in life we are all affected and impacted in many ways by the actions of others - see for instance car insurance; waiting times in A&E

 

[Smiffy]

Gretna is the wrong side of the border for the cheap booze...

At last.
Somebody spelt border correctly

 

[User62651]

Address the economic and social issues that cause binge drinking would be a better plan. Seems daft to me, penalise all the regular folk who enjoy reasonable quantities of alcohol and are already hard up, to address problems the few have. Surely increasing the drinking age to 21 or so would make more sense....but hang on that would impact on tax revenues on booze, what this is really about, more money for govt off the already over taxed under the pretence of a health move. Increasing drinking age would mean everyone was affected equally, not just the poor as increasing price wont affect the better off.
If this goes through invest in home brew kit makers, sales will rocket.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/alcohol/Pages/alcohol-units.aspx

Address the economic and social issues that cause binge drinking would be a better plan. Seems daft to me, penalise all the regular folk who enjoy reasonable quantities of alcohol and are already hard up, to address problems the few have. Surely increasing the drinking age to 21 or so would make more sense....but hang on that would impact on tax revenues on booze, what this is really about, more money for govt off the already over taxed under the pretence of a health move. Increasing drinking age would mean everyone was affected equally, not just the poor as increasing price wont affect the better off.
If this goes through invest in home brew kit makers, sales will rocket.

50p per unit equates to £3.50 for a bottle of wine, £16 for a bottle of Grouse.
It will not affect 95% of alcoholic drinks sold.
It is the high alcohol/low price drinks such as white cider, strong larger etc that this is aimed at.

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/alcohol/Pages/alcohol-units.aspx

 

[chippa1909]

Unfortunately Buckfast wouldn't go up.

 

[Hobbit]

But why penalise the sensible drinkers that like a good malt or tawny port?

Nanny state, again.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

But why penalise the sensible drinkers that like a good malt or tawny port?

Nanny state, again.

EUghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
It is a 50p per unit minimum price.
PLEASE tell me where you can buy a good malt for under £16.
The warehouses in Berwick on Tweed would be full selling that.:lol:

OOPs...... .Just realised you meant malt porter.....apologies from a whisky man

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Unfortunately Buckfast wouldn't go up.

That is the sad aspect of this.
The 15% alcohol/15% caffine that gets round that, imagine wired drunks....no thanks.

Mind you I am told that it now sells for around £8 a bottle so it is probably policing itself.