Minimum Alcohol Pricing.

[Doon frae Troon]

Seems to be working in Scotland.
3% drop in consumption.
Looks like chemical cider and cheap sherry are on the way out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-48675313

 

[Deleted member 18588]

And yet alcohol consumption per capita is still higher in Scotland than the rest of UK.

 

[pendodave]

And yet alcohol consumption per capita is still higher in Scotland than the rest of UK.

And?
Surely it takes a special point of view to see the bad in this.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

And?
Surely it takes a special point of view to see the bad in this.

Is it wrong to point out that, despite this measure which I consider to be a good thing, there remains a problem and resistance on the part of many.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

There is of course a serious drinking problem in Scotland; and to make things worse there are - in many communities - a drinking culture that makes it very difficult for those who know they have a problem to actually go and seek help - it's seen as a sign of weakness and some places when you display any weakness others will look to take advantage of you (or worse).

 

[MegaSteve]

It's a change in culture that's needed... Not just an easy cop out of ramping up the price...
My lad was in France last weekend... 12 euros for 40 bottles of Kronenberg yet there is no culture of alcohol 'abuse' to be seen in French towns...

 

[Orikoru]

It's a change in culture that's needed... Not just an easy cop out of ramping up the price...
My lad was in France last weekend... 12 euros for 40 bottles of Kronenberg yet there is no culture of alcohol 'abuse' to be seen in French towns...

That's what I was thinking. Seems unfair to punish the casual, responsible drinkers by raising prices.

 

[Kellfire]

It's a change in culture that's needed... Not just an easy cop out of ramping up the price...
My lad was in France last weekend... 12 euros for 40 bottles of Kronenberg yet there is no culture of alcohol 'abuse' to be seen in French towns...

Ah this old chestnut.

The French drink and they drink A LOT.

https://www.alcohol.org/guides/global-drinking-demographics/

 

[Kellfire]

That's what I was thinking. Seems unfair to punish the casual, responsible drinkers by raising prices.

Casual, responsible drinkers won’t be affected by a 50p a unit price.

 

[Orikoru]

Casual, responsible drinkers won’t be affected by a 50p a unit price.

I'm always affected when something I want has gone up in price! Usually that effect is to annoy me.

 

[chrisd]

Casual, responsible drinkers won’t be affected by a 50p a unit price.

How come?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

And yet alcohol consumption per capita is still higher in Scotland than the rest of UK.

Always has been...…..the difference is England went up 3% and Scotland dropped 3% last year.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

That's what I was thinking. Seems unfair to punish the casual, responsible drinkers by raising prices.

I am certain that the casual responsible drinkers do not drink White Lightning

Very little difference in things like beer spirits other than the horrible cheap spirits going up by 50p a bottle.

 

[MegaSteve]

Ah this old chestnut.

The French drink and they drink A LOT.

https://www.alcohol.org/guides/global-drinking-demographics/

Can't be asked to read all thru' your link but it seems centred on vodka... And, if I could be asked I've no doubt I could Google a link with a counter view... My lad also goes, a lot, to Italy and Spain where the alcohol is similarly priced with no obvious signs of over indulgence by 'locals'...

Happy googling for your response...

 

[MegaSteve]

Always has been...…..the difference is England went up 3% and Scotland dropped 3% last year.

Sales or consumption?

 

[Orikoru]

I am certain that the casual responsible drinkers do not drink White Lightning

Very little difference in things like beer spirits other than the horrible cheap spirits going up by 50p a bottle.

Oh yeah, that's fair enough. I thought it was higher pricing across the board.

 

[patricks148]

That's what I was thinking. Seems unfair to punish the casual, responsible drinkers by raising prices.

Too right , its costing me more to get wankered every night and i'm a responsible drinker

 

[Grant85]

Seems to be working in Scotland.
3% drop in consumption.
Looks like chemical cider and cheap sherry are on the way out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-48675313

First off, I have no problem with the policy and think it could realistically make a difference on public health and preventing people from becoming heavy drinkers at a young age.

However the research actually details sales of alcohol. In theory some of these sales will be replaced with people buying cheap booze in England, or even further afield, and taking it back.

But, glad to see the policy is being reported in a positive light. I'd be very surprised if the rest of the UK don't adopt a similar policy and would possibly have done so if the EU wasn't dominating all political bandwidth.

 

[jim8flog]

Casual, responsible drinkers won’t be affected by a 50p a unit price.

I consider myself a sensible drinker but that raises the price of a bottle of wine (of the type I drink ) by 50%

 

[patricks148]

First off, I have no problem with the policy and think it could realistically make a difference on public health and preventing people from becoming heavy drinkers at a young age.

However the research actually details sales of alcohol. In theory some of these sales will be replaced with people buying cheap booze in England, or even further afield, and taking it back.

But, glad to see the policy is being reported in a positive light. I'd be very surprised if the rest of the UK don't adopt a similar policy and would possibly have done so if the EU wasn't dominating all political bandwidth.

lets not forget there could be a rise in home production, i know Cider production at Chez Ballifeary will recommence in autumn 2019

Joking aside there is a drink problem in Scotland, but i don't think just whacking the price up is the answer, more needs none on the causes and education.