Maximum handicap 18?

the pros make a living out of it so every single shot can cost thousands of pounds, i think i'd take my time then.

but from what i've seen its always the high handicap player holding the groups up. they should start a rule at clubs that if you cant play to a handicap of 18 and no more then you cant join. simples
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so how do you go about getting a handicap if your not allowed on the course because you cannot prove you can play to 18?

and because you play off 6 or what ever it is, does that mean when scratch or + players play then you must stay off the course as your bound to hold them up if you are not at there standard?

Golf is about a game of enjoyment and handicaps help people enjoy the game and have a fair game with anyone else. I know plenty 28 handicappers who struggle to score 36 points and once they get better they will get there lower handicap as it should be about your playing standard.

Dont get me wrong I feel CONGU can be slightly unfair at times, for example when I have got my main cuts I have posted 14 over for previous 3 rounds, I wish they would take this into account rather than deduct a shot a time. I am consistantly proven I can score better than my handicap but its a gradual decline.
 
ive played in comps before where there has been different catergories, 0-8 8-16 16 - 24 and over or (something like that)seems to solve the problem, funny listening to a scratch player complaining he lost out to bandit playing of 8 :D
 
Is golfer 110 really TimGolfy in disguise?

I dont have a handicap, and have not broken 100 yet, but I am a member of a club, and keen to improve. I had my second birdie on Friday night, but regularly hit 7 or 8 on par 5's, I wish I had more natural talent or manage to absorb everything I have been taught much faster, but I cant. Thats the challenge, to improve, when I play I am not interested in other peoples scores, my only concern is my score, to relax, and to enjoy myself.
 
the pros make a living out of it so every single shot can cost thousands of pounds, i think i'd take my time then.

but from what i've seen its always the high handicap player holding the groups up. they should start a rule at clubs that if you cant play to a handicap of 18 and no more then you cant join. simples
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Think maybe your on the wrong forum man.. anyhow not to bother if many of your posts are as shall we say.. attempted contraversial. as these, youl find genuine members will tire of you very fast .. well done on you achievement of geting down from 12 to 3 in your 1st year thats good golf fair play ..
 
i am a member of a club and of course i've played a comp off back tees. my handicap is 3 and only took 1 year to get there with no lessons i started on 12.

if you cant play to a decent standard after a few month then you shoudn't be on the course. all high handicappers do is hold everyone else up and are the cause of slow play
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Please tell us your club, current handicap and anything else you would like to share with us.

I, for one, think you are a grade one bullsh1tter or maybe you are pulling our p1sser.
 
I must admit my initial lateral thinking approach of "all handicaps to start from scratch" isnt the most practicable (albeit not the most lateral) thought i have come up with

However, i do think that CONGU should insist that anybody's first handicap should start from 18. You can still have 3 cards, but your first handicap can never be more than 18. You can have a higher handicap than 18, but it has to get there by 0.1s from submitted cards.

yes i know you all hate me
 
I don't hate you - I just don't understand your reasoning.

Surely the aim of a handicapping system is to create an even playing field for all competitors to give every competitor an even chance of winning based on their ability. If you are saying that youy should be penalised for not being to 18 handicap standard then I totally disagree.

Golf is an all embracing game and if some elitist lower handicappers can't accept that go and find another sport that doesn't try to embrace players of all abilities.
 
if i coudn't get down to 18 within the first 6 month of joining a club i would give the game up all together. i would feel embarassed to tell anyone that i played golf and my handicap was above it.
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What a stupid post.
 
I don't hate you - I just don't understand your reasoning.

Surely the aim of a handicapping system is to create an even playing field for all competitors to give every competitor an even chance of winning based on their ability. If you are saying that youy should be penalised for not being to 18 handicap standard then I totally disagree.

Golf is an all embracing game and if some elitist lower handicappers can't accept that go and find another sport that doesn't try to embrace players of all abilities.
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That's fine - a nice respectful disagreement :)

i might put it that the aim of eth handicapping system in NOT in fact what you suggest. And even if it were what you suggest, the current system doesnt achieve what you suggest, and therefore alternative approaches which might achieve the aim you suggest (i.e such as mine) ought to be supported by those who support what you suggest ;)
 
And in fact, my sysyem does not invalidate your reasonable concept of the hanidcap system, it just means you get there after a period of time and then all is fair.

Rather than a current system of the problems and flaws of the 3 cards, and teh problem of bandits

So, in fact it's wonderful system that CONGU will be biting off my hand to initiate ;)
 
but there are some very good high handicappers on the Forum, always willing to give technical advice and golf strategy tips to single figure and low teen players :eek:
 
I don't hate you - I just don't understand your reasoning.

Surely the aim of a handicapping system is to create an even playing field for all competitors to give every competitor an even chance of winning based on their ability. If you are saying that youy should be penalised for not being to 18 handicap standard then I totally disagree.

Golf is an all embracing game and if some elitist lower handicappers can't accept that go and find another sport that doesn't try to embrace players of all abilities.
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That's fine - a nice respectful disagreement :)

i might put it that the aim of eth handicapping system in NOT in fact what you suggest. And even if it were what you suggest, the current system doesnt achieve what you suggest, and therefore alternative approaches which might achieve the aim you suggest (i.e such as mine) ought to be supported by those who support what you suggest ;)
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Enlighten me as to what the aim of a handicapping system is if it is not to create an even playing field.

I would not disagree that there are 'Bandits' that maintain artificially high handicaps but they are not all high handicappers.

Yes there are flaws with the system but players of lower ability should not be discriminated against because of the actions of a few.
 
Simplest solution I suppose would be for every card to be handed in. More scores would mean more accurate handicaps. The downside would be slower rounds as every pity would need to be seen in.
 
i am a member of a club and of course i've played a comp off back tees. my handicap is 3 and only took 1 year to get there with no lessons i started on 12.

if you cant play to a decent standard after a few month then you shoudn't be on the course. all high handicappers do is hold everyone else up and are the cause of slow play
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This debate reminds me of the “That Was The Week That Was” sketches (that dates me) with John Cleese, Ronny Barker and Ronnie Corbett.
John Cleese (Cat 1 and 2 players) looks down on Ronny Corbett (Cat 3 players) who looks down on Ronnie Corbett (everyone else).
 
This debate reminds me of the “That Was The Week That Was” sketches (that dates me) with John Cleese, Ronny Barker and Ronnie Corbett.
John Cleese (Cat 1 and 2 players) looks down on Ronny Corbett (Cat 3 players) who looks down on Ronnie Corbett (everyone else).
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This is SOOOOOOO close to the truth but there's a flaw

The real systems is :

I'm a low handicapper and i look down on everyone cos i'm a good handicapper

Im a high handicapper and i look up to low handicappers because they are good golfers, but i look down on low- medium handicappers because i win all the compepeitions which our wonderful CONGUS system prevails to keep all of my ilk paying membership fees to member golf clubs so that i dont get depressed and go and play badminton instead

Im a low-medium handicapper and i wear a flat cap

;)
 
Simplest solution I suppose would be for every card to be handed in. More scores would mean more accurate handicaps. The downside would be slower rounds as every pity would need to be seen in.
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In my mad world, I like the idea of all cards being handed in (not socials obviously, but everything else Q' or not). With the advent of h'cap'ing computers, it could be done.
Our club tried to bring in a system to cut/increase players based on 9 hole scores made in our summer midweek 9 hole roll-ups. It was almost universally unapproved of.
So, player "a" scores 20/21/20/19/23 points, gets no cut and then romps off with a biggie late summer with 45 points. Player "b" makes 14/15/12/13/15, gets no +0.1 and starts the autumn still to high for his capability.
and the same happens with Sunday games.....

I despair. :rolleyes:
 
ive played in comps before where there has been different catergories, 0-8 8-16 16 - 24 and over or (something like that)seems to solve the problem, funny listening to a scratch player complaining he lost out to bandit playing of 8 :D
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I think all clubs have the same system in comps but it doesn't necessarily mean segregation e.g. if you're off 9 you can't play wth 0-8.
 
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