Masters 2017 thread

HawkeyeMS said:
The pine needle in front of the ball moved up which made it look like the ball moved. It is possible the ball moved a fraction of a mm but not enough to call a penalty. The officials acted quickly and made the right call. It is no longer a story
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Beezerk said:
Of course it's a story and we can discuss all we like. Looked like it moved a fraction in the replay I saw but thankfully the officials dealt with it in the correct manner and made the right call. I dread to think of the headlines had he been pulled for it.
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shivas irons said:
So since when has a moving ball not been a penalty :confused: ridiculous statement "oh the balls moved but not enough for a penalty" :rolleyes: I wouldnt want to play golf with you....
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Yes of course it can be discussed but I'm with Hawkeye as it was dealt with during the play and very quickly at that and it was deemed not to be a penalty wether right or wrong at least it was dealt with quickly.
 
pokerjoke said:
Yes of course it can be discussed but I'm with Hawkeye as it was dealt with during the play and very quickly at that and it was deemed not to be a penalty wether right or wrong at least it was dealt with quickly.
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Hawkeyes saying the ball prob moved a few mm but its ok,since when was that the rule?
 
shivas irons said:
Hawkeyes saying the ball prob moved a few mm but its ok,since when was that the rule?
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No, actually he did not say a few millimeters, he said "a fraction of a millimeter", an important difference, because we come, once again, to the point where the zoom you get on a video might enable you to spot something that the naked eye cannot. To start calling penalties for movement which is not visible to the naked eye is just against all common sense.
 
Capella said:
No, actually he did not say a few millimeters, he said "a fraction of a millimeter", an important difference, because we come, once again, to the point where the zoom you get on a video might enable you to spot something that the naked eye cannot. To start calling penalties for movement which is not visible to the naked eye is just against all common sense.
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:thup:
 
Capella said:
No, actually he did not say a few millimeters, he said "a fraction of a millimeter", an important difference, because we come, once again, to the point where the zoom you get on a video might enable you to spot something that the naked eye cannot. To start calling penalties for movement which is not visible to the naked eye is just against all common sense.
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^^^ This

A player can only go by what he/she sees and I don't doubt Garcia's integrity. If the cameras picked something up that he didn't/couldn't see then so be it but the rules committee deemed there was no infringement.

All good then in my opinion :thup:
 
shivas irons said:
So since when has a moving ball not been a penalty :confused: ridiculous statement "oh the balls moved but not enough for a penalty" :rolleyes: I wouldnt want to play golf with you....
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The committee ruled it wasn't a penalty so where's the issue. There word on the subject is final so in there eyes the ball did NOT however much you think it might. And as for playing with Hawkeye, it's something I've enjoyed many, many times and his integrity involving golf and the rules is impeccable and sadly given the choice between playing another round with him or with you and your superior attitude then I'm afraid you're on your own
 
Just finished watching the final day. Had a stinking cold after going to the inlaws for an Easter lunch. I wasn't able to watch a moment of the BBC cocerave for Sunday.

Could barely move this morning my illness was so bad. The wife stuck the golf on the TV for me so I didn't pass away from boredom.

I fell asleep a few times so had to do a lot of winding back but finally got to see the remarkable ending.

Truly a joy to watch every minute of the Sunday coverage and the end with all it's mistique around the Spanish history (magic).

Hopefully a good nights rest will see me better in the morning but emotionally it's going to take a few days.
 
Does anybody know why the "moving ball" was even being investigated, who called it out? The reason I ask is because I have just watched the coverage as it happened and at no point did it even look like the ball moved. Most of the time, you couldn't even see the ball because Sergio was in the way and when you could, there was no reason to believe or think that it might have moved, even after the event when I was looking for it. On top of that, it must have been reported rather quickly if the committee reviewed it and ruled on it so quickly?
 
shivas irons said:
So since when has a moving ball not been a penalty :confused: ridiculous statement "oh the balls moved but not enough for a penalty" :rolleyes: I wouldnt want to play golf with you....
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Firstly, even with zoomed in slow motion, you can't say with certainty that it moved. Secondly, I wouldn't want to play with you if you are going to be there calling penalties on everyone for things that may have happened but were impossible see :ears:
 
Something that surprised and saddened me during Sky's coverage - it seems that Padraig & Sergio are unlikely to send each other Christmas cards this year.

Did some kind of kerfuffle occur in the past that I missed?
 
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JohnnyDee said:
Something that surprised and saddened me during Sky's coverage - it seems that Padraig & Sergio are unlikely to send each other Christmas cards this year.

Did some kind of kerfuffle occur in the past that I missed?
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Have a google, there are 3-4 versions out there. Stems back to when they played against each other in play offs (amongst other things)
 
pauldj42 said:
Have a google, there are 3-4 versions out there. Stems back to when they played against each other in play offs (amongst other things)
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I've tried doing just that to see if there was a specific incident, but all Harrington ever says is that they have 'nothing in common' and have 'opposite approaches to the game' and nondescript stuff like that.

Just seen this quote on another article though "The Ryder Cup stars, who have had a strained relationship for more than a decade since Garcia took exception to Harrington's rules row with Jose Maria Olazabal..."
 
HawkeyeMS said:
Does anybody know why the "moving ball" was even being investigated, who called it out? The reason I ask is because I have just watched the coverage as it happened and at no point did it even look like the ball moved. Most of the time, you couldn't even see the ball because Sergio was in the way and when you could, there was no reason to believe or think that it might have moved, even after the event when I was looking for it. On top of that, it must have been reported rather quickly if the committee reviewed it and ruled on it so quickly?
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Don't know for certain, but my guess would be that they had a look off their own backs to preempt any controversy further down the line.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
The committee ruled it wasn't a penalty so where's the issue. There word on the subject is final so in there eyes the ball did NOT however much you think it might.
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I remember everybody's support on the forum for their decision being final and therefore accepted re Tiger a few years ago.
 
Mrs SiLH watched the last day of the Masters with me - she really enjoys the Masters having sat up with me to watch Sandy win all those years ago. Two months after we'd met and she had never watched golf. But that evening the excitement of Sandy's win got her hooked on the Masters.

She also told me on Sunday that she'd watched something on TV (was it on the news) about the Lexi Thompson 4 shot penalty. She thought that that made golf look totally stupid. She mentioned this at the point of the pine straw 'incident' and as much as she was enjoying watching Sergio and Justin - if Sergio had been penalised she'd just have thought 'what a stupid game - ruining a great and exciting sporting event'.
 
Why is this even being discussed? Sergio won the masters!!!

The ball didn't move and he went on to win. I read something during the event on the final day that you hope it isn't brought up, or I hope its the end of it or something. Well it was, it is. It's you who are bringing it up. Get over it, nothing happened and he won.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, it's not meant to, but for the love of God, there are better things about golf to talk about that this. Sergio finally winning a major is fantastic, I am so so glad for him. I was concerned he wouldn't ever do it.
 
TheJezster said:
Why is this even being discussed? Sergio won the masters!!!

The ball didn't move and he went on to win. I read something during the event on the final day that you hope it isn't brought up, or I hope its the end of it or something. Well it was, it is. It's you who are bringing it up. Get over it, nothing happened and he won.
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Nothing happened lol, but it DID move https://twitter.com/MooseWithFleas/status/851197991243460612/video/1

Ok the folks at Augusta ruled it not to have but in reality it did, if anything it sits down a little. Maybe they bottled it to save more red faces after DJ and Lexi.
 
TheJezster said:
Why is this even being discussed? Sergio won the masters!!!

The ball didn't move and he went on to win. I read something during the event on the final day that you hope it isn't brought up, or I hope its the end of it or something. Well it was, it is. It's you who are bringing it up. Get over it, nothing happened and he won.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, it's not meant to, but for the love of God, there are better things about golf to talk about that this. Sergio finally winning a major is fantastic, I am so so glad for him. I was concerned he wouldn't ever do it.
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Because people keep arriving in the thread and bringing it up again! :D Not having a go.. but that is literally why it keeps being discussed.
 
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