Marking Scorecards for New Handicap

[Doug_Aberdeen]

I've just joined a club and will be hopefully playing in my first Saturday medal in a couple of weeks. Neither myself nor my playing partner have a handicap - is it feasible for the two of us to join 2 exisitng members and have our cards marked by them for the purposes of getting our first handicap? I can't quite get my head round it as if they are marking our cards, then who marks there cards (I assume we can't do this as we don't have a vaid handicap)?

 

[The Sclaffer]

I've just joined a club and will be hopefully playing in my first Saturday medal in a couple of weeks. Neither myself nor my playing partner have a handicap - is it feasible for the two of us to join 2 exisitng members and have our cards marked by them for the purposes of getting our first handicap? I can't quite get my head round it as if they are marking our cards, then who marks there cards (I assume we can't do this as we don't have a vaid handicap)?

I'd check with the your own Club but 3 players is normally the preferred grouping in Medal Play. Another issue is that as you are not currently a member then you wouldn't be permitted to mark the cards of the existing members.

 

[BTatHome]

I'd check with the your own Club but 3 players is normally the preferred grouping in Medal Play. Another issue is that as you are not currently a member then you wouldn't be permitted to mark the cards of the existing members.

he said he had just joined the club, so he is an member.

The restrictions for marking the card are for the club to decide.

 

[duncan mackie]

Doug

As has been said, check the procedure with the club. It's quite common for clubs to put new members into a competition for a handicap card but they will normally do it in a controlled manner ie pair you up with a committee member or someone whose happy etc - but it's equally common for clubs to require people playing in competition to have handicaps.....none of it will be 'personal', rules will exist

The handicap sec will know, and will be used to people contacting him. It's also best to discuss early rather than at the last minute.

It's not onerous, it just comes over that way as there will be CONGU rules, handicap rules and competition rules

 

[The Sclaffer]

he said he had just joined the club, so he is an member.

The restrictions for marking the card are for the club to decide.

It's best for the guy to check with his committee. Although he is a member, he doesn't have a handicap which may (but not necessarily so) prevent him from acting as a marker in a competition. From memory, I think the regulations state "responsible person" or words to that effect.

I accept it's not against the rules to play in a four ball format in medal play but I know that a three ball is the PREFERRED grouping at most clubs. I presume this is to assist speed of play.

 

[Joff]

At ours, anyone with a handicap at the club can mark a card, anytime.

 

[Andy808]

At our club any member can mark a card for any other member in a comp but you have to have a valid handicap to participate in a qualifier. The only other stipulation is juniors can't mark a card for an adult member for any comps.

 

[6inchcup]

as some have stated at my club only those with an active h/cap can mark cards in club comps,juniors aren't allowed to mark adults cards unless the comp states they can,how many on these pages would like someone who has never marked a card constantly asking what to do or worse still making a pigs ear out of the card,what is it with newbies that they cant wait to play in comps,learn the rules,get a h/cap mark a card in a practice them look at playing in a comp,is it just me or am i the only one that expects my playing partners to have the knowledge to mark a card and the fundamental rules of etiquette and golf before they enter any comp at the club.

 

[El Bandito]

As most have said, check with the handicap secretary is the best bet. Generally, he will be happy to welcome you to the club as a participating and valuable member and give you some tips on dos and donts. Most members, in my experience, will be very happy to help you through and make sure you don't make any errors. Have a cracking round!

 

[Doug_Aberdeen]

Thanks for the helpful replies guys.

 

[chris661]

as some have stated at my club only those with an active h/cap can mark cards in club comps,juniors aren't allowed to mark adults cards unless the comp states they can,how many on these pages would like someone who has never marked a card constantly asking what to do or worse still making a pigs ear out of the card,what is it with newbies that they cant wait to play in comps,learn the rules,get a h/cap mark a card in a practice them look at playing in a comp,is it just me or am i the only one that expects my playing partners to have the knowledge to mark a card and the fundamental rules of etiquette and golf before they enter any comp at the club.

Am I the only one that expects fellow forum users to use a space bar after any punctuation marks?





Did that sound ridiculous? A bit like your statement, how do you know he doesn't have your required knowledge on how to mark a card?

 

[stevie_r]

as some have stated at my club only those with an active h/cap can mark cards in club comps,juniors aren't allowed to mark adults cards unless the comp states they can,how many on these pages would like someone who has never marked a card constantly asking what to do or worse still making a pigs ear out of the card,what is it with newbies that they cant wait to play in comps,learn the rules,get a h/cap mark a card in a practice them look at playing in a comp,is it just me or am i the only one that expects my playing partners to have the knowledge to mark a card and the fundamental rules of etiquette and golf before they enter any comp at the club.

Why on earth is your post so damning and why are you making so many unnecessary assumptions?
The post wasn't about knowledge of the rules nor about etiquette. So you don't wan't beginners playing in competitions? How on earth are people meant to get a handicap in the first place when many clubs insist on at least one card of your three being submitted for a competitive round?

 

[Kellfire]

as some have stated at my club only those with an active h/cap can mark cards in club comps,juniors aren't allowed to mark adults cards unless the comp states they can,how many on these pages would like someone who has never marked a card constantly asking what to do or worse still making a pigs ear out of the card,what is it with newbies that they cant wait to play in comps,learn the rules,get a h/cap mark a card in a practice them look at playing in a comp,is it just me or am i the only one that expects my playing partners to have the knowledge to mark a card and the fundamental rules of etiquette and golf before they enter any comp at the club.

You sound a lark.

 

[6inchcup]

Why on earth is your post so damning and why are you making so many unnecessary assumptions?
The post wasn't about knowledge of the rules nor about etiquette. So you don't want beginners playing in competitions? How on earth are people meant to get a handicap in the first place when many clubs insist on at least one card of your three being submitted for a competitive round?

it was a general statement about someone without a h/cap entering a comp in the first place,i don't know of ANY club in my area that states you have to play in a comp to get a h/cap,what is wrong in getting your h/cap THEN entering a comp,the problem with a lot of people who decide to start playing golf now as opposed to 40 years ago the newbies (not counting the op) want everything now,clubs from AG on a saturday club membership on monday playing in comp on thursday,i know it is an old fashioned view but learn to play golf,learn the rules and how to behave get you h/cap then enter comps,that's what i and thousands of others did.

 

[duncan mackie]

it was a general statement about someone without a h/cap entering a comp in the first place,i don't know of ANY club in my area that states you have to play in a comp to get a h/cap,what is wrong in getting your h/cap THEN entering a comp,the problem with a lot of people who decide to start playing golf now as opposed to 40 years ago the newbies (not counting the op) want everything now,clubs from AG on a saturday club membership on monday playing in comp on thursday,i know it is an old fashioned view but learn to play golf,learn the rules and how to behave get you h/cap then enter comps,that's what i and thousands of others did.

as I get older, and my knowledge increases, I become much more tolerant to those without knowledge because I increasingly realise how little I still know, but much less tolerant to those without the appropriate attitude.

I also start with the presumption that people have the right attitude

 

[The Sclaffer]

it was a general statement about someone without a h/cap entering a comp in the first place,i don't know of ANY club in my area that states you have to play in a comp to get a h/cap,what is wrong in getting your h/cap THEN entering a comp,the problem with a lot of people who decide to start playing golf now as opposed to 40 years ago the newbies (not counting the op) want everything now,clubs from AG on a saturday club membership on monday playing in comp on thursday,i know it is an old fashioned view but learn to play golf,learn the rules and how to behave get you h/cap then enter comps,that's what i and thousands of others did.

To be fair to the original poster I don't think it was his intention to actually enter the competition.He was only asking if it would be possible to play alongside someone who was and whether it would then be possible for him to submit a card of his own for handicap assessment purposes.

 

[stevie_r]

it was a general statement about someone without a h/cap entering a comp in the first place,i don't know of ANY club in my area that states you have to play in a comp to get a h/cap,what is wrong in getting your h/cap THEN entering a comp,the problem with a lot of people who decide to start playing golf now as opposed to 40 years ago the newbies (not counting the op) want everything now,clubs from AG on a saturday club membership on monday playing in comp on thursday,i know it is an old fashioned view but learn to play golf,learn the rules and how to behave get you h/cap then enter comps,that's what i and thousands of others did.

A lot of clubs in my area insist that one of your three cards submitted for HC must be for a competitive round.

However, I bow to your years of experience and if what you state was good enough for you then it must be good enough for everyone; and enforceable by law

 

[HomerJSimpson]

My club allows handicap cards to be put in anytime without it having to be a competition. Check it out at your own club, get the cards in and enjoy the "fun" trying to get it lower

 

[6inchcup]

A lot of clubs in my area insist that one of your three cards submitted for HC must be for a competitive round.

However, I bow to your years of experience and if what you state was good enough for you then it must be good enough for everyone; and enforceable by law

i have been playing golf for over 45 years and things have changed dramatically over those years,some good some bad,when i was a 10 year old i couldn't go onto the course unless i had a adult to accompany me,or even go into the club house(we had a shed round the back) and it was still an elitist game played by doctors and lawyers,you dressed in clothes suitable for golf and wore a shirt,tie and blazer in the club house,the steward called everyone by the surname with the prefix of MR,i got my first h/c at the age of 14 even though i had been playing golf for 4 years,now we have people who wish to play in jeans and footy tops and as soon as they join a club wish to change it,i know things have to evolve but the fundamentals are the same,you have to learn to play have a grasp of the rules and how to conduct yourself,how to mark a card and be courteous to your fellow players,don't forget in a comp the other players in your group are trying to win or improve their h/cap so 18 holes of constant questions about card marking isn't aiding their enjoyment,as i have stated many times SOCIAL golf and COMPETIOTION GOLF are two different animals,learn how to play and get your h/c cards without spoiling someone else's game.

 

[stevie_r]

i have been playing golf for over 45 years and things have changed dramatically over those years,some good some bad,when i was a 10 year old i couldn't go onto the course unless i had a adult to accompany me,or even go into the club house(we had a shed round the back) and it was still an elitist game played by doctors and lawyers,you dressed in clothes suitable for golf and wore a shirt,tie and blazer in the club house,the steward called everyone by the surname with the prefix of MR,i got my first h/c at the age of 14 even though i had been playing golf for 4 years,now we have people who wish to play in jeans and footy tops and as soon as they join a club wish to change it,i know things have to evolve but the fundamentals are the same,you have to learn to play have a grasp of the rules and how to conduct yourself,how to mark a card and be courteous to your fellow players,don't forget in a comp the other players in your group are trying to win or improve their h/cap so 18 holes of constant questions about card marking isn't aiding their enjoyment,as i have stated many times SOCIAL golf and COMPETIOTION GOLF are two different animals,learn how to play and get your h/c cards without spoiling someone else's game.

I'm not really interested in how your golfing experience was nearly half a century ago, it has about as much relevance as the fact that we used to shove small boys up chimneys. For the last time, because I'm getting bored stating it now, A lot of clubs in my area insist that one of your three cards submitted for HC must be for a competitive round.