Lottery Funding & Olympics

[pendodave]

Since when was anyone "forced" to buy a lottery ticket , It is a voluntary donation

No. It is not a voluntary donation, it is state sponsored (and taxed) gambling. Gambling is as voluntary as drinking and smoking. That's why all those nice people on telly in the adbreaks are so keen to encourage it.

If it was about voluntary donations, we would all be doing it by making a nice gift aid donation and getting the tax relief. Good luck with that one in deepest Skem.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Will do and what you say goes for all of us.

It sort of gives credibility if you can at least back up what you post, otherwise they can come across as blinkered insular ramblings.

 

[gregbwfc]

Since when was anyone "forced" to buy a lottery ticket

It is a voluntary donation - no money is "taken" it is given by people looking to gain winnings. People have a choice - not one single person is being forced to buy a lottery ticket.

Indeed Phil.
And not one of us buys a ticket with good causes in mind (great that some of the money does do some good).
We buy them to win the big 'un so we don't have to go to work again.
I've felt bloody great watching our athletes this past 2 weeks - and 2012 too.

Any success we have as a country, always some folk wanting to do it down.
Is it a particularly British disesase ?

 

[Oohmeoldbacksknackered]

Taking money from the poor to give to the rich ? What an nonsense statement

No money is "taken" from anyone

If people aren't happy with lottery money helping out talented people amongst thousands of other projects then don't buy the lottery

I think it's generally accepted that people from poorer families pay a disproportionate amount of what little disposable income they have searching and hoping for that dream ticket to change their lives.
Given the likelihood of winning a major prize then the lottery is often seen as a tax on the poor because the money it brings in means that the government doesn't have to fund some things that previously were in it's remit.

Yes, poor people don't have to buy the lottery. They don't have to drink or smoke either. But most do at least one because life is bloody dull if you can't dream or relax a bit every now and then.....

 

[Deleted member 15344]

No. It is not a voluntary donation, it is state sponsored (and taxed) gambling. Gambling is as voluntary as drinking and smoking. That's why all those nice people on telly in the adbreaks are so keen to encourage it.

If it was about voluntary donations, we would all be doing it by making a nice gift aid donation and getting the tax relief. Good luck with that one in deepest Skem.

Yes it is voluntary - it's a choice every single one of has to make. If someone chooses to buy a ticket they have done it on their own free will knowing exactly where the money goes - nothing it hidden from anyone.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Will do and what you say goes for all of us.

Any expansion on the Kuwait Olympic village thing?

 

[Val]

No. It is not a voluntary donation, it is state sponsored (and taxed) gambling. Gambling is as voluntary as drinking and smoking. That's why all those nice people on telly in the adbreaks are so keen to encourage it.

If it was about voluntary donations, we would all be doing it by making a nice gift aid donation and getting the tax relief. Good luck with that one in deepest Skem.

Well, any time I've bought a lottery ticket I did because I wanted to play and take the gamble, I wasnt forced and I voluntereed to do it, like the millions of others who do it.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Any expansion on the Kuwait Olympic village thing?

Shame it's from the Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/property...2-Four-years-s-like-live-Olympic-village.html

It seems the apartments are owned by Get Living London and Triathlon Homes - both companies giving people affordable housing

 

[Alucard]

Any expansion on the Kuwait Olympic village thing?

Look it up yourself if you are still interested.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I've not bought a lottery ticket in years but enjoy the success of the team GB Olympic team. Does that mean I have to pay back my TV licence, or am I getting confused with this thread?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Look it up yourself if you are still interested.

Not seen anything about Kuwait and the London Olympic Village

Found this though

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/property...2-Four-years-s-like-live-Olympic-village.html

Which shows who does own the apartments in the Olympic Village

Can you please expand on what you are talking about pleas ?

 

[Alucard]

I think it's generally accepted that people from poorer families pay a disproportionate amount of what little disposable income they have searching and hoping for that dream ticket to change their lives.
Given the likelihood of winning a major prize then the lottery is often seen as a tax on the poor because the money it brings in means that the government doesn't have to fund some things that previously were in it's remit.

Yes, poor people don't have to buy the lottery. They don't have to drink or smoke either. But most do at least one because life is bloody dull if you can't dream or relax a bit every now and then.....

Good post very fair and nobody can argue with that surely? I would just add that personally have not bought a lottery ticket since the government privatised the lottery through the back door by selling to a Canadian pensions firm and then they then proceeded to make it almost impossible to actually win it by introducing more balls to the game.

I think a good idea and a fair one would be for people to be able to write on their ticket or tick a box on the ticket in what area IE arts, Sport, Cancer..... they want their part of their purchase price of their lottery ticket to go.

 

[Alucard]

Not seen anything about Kuwait and the London Olympic Village

Found this though

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/property...2-Four-years-s-like-live-Olympic-village.html

Which shows who does own the apartments in the Olympic Village

Can you please expand on what you are talking about pleas ?

It was Qatar that bought it..... I knew it was middle eastern but could have sworn it was a Kuwait family from memory of the dirty deal. It was done on the quiet under the radar. Here are some headlines from then. They have plenty of money there so I guess why they got given the World cup after Russia even though they never even had an international side at the time and its as hot as the centre of the sun there, lol

How Qatar bought Britain: They own the Shard. They own the Olympic Village. And they don't care if their Lamborghinis get clamped when they shop at Harrods (which is theirs, too)

 

[ger147]

Not seen anything about Kuwait and the London Olympic Village

Found this though

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/property...2-Four-years-s-like-live-Olympic-village.html

Which shows who does own the apartments in the Olympic Village

Can you please expand on what you are talking about pleas ?

That article explains who manages both groups of properties, it doesn't state who owns them.

A few mins on Google and I found several links to articles which explained the whole Olympic Park site, flats included, were sold to a joint bid by a British firm called Delancey and the Qatari investment firm Qatari Diar.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

That article explains who manages both groups of properties, it doesn't state who owns them.

A few mins on Google and I found several links to articles which explained the whole Olympic Park site, flats included, were sold to a joint bid by a British firm called Delancey and the Qatari investment firm Qatari Diar.

Cheers :thup:

So the question is now to alucard - whats. wrong with them buying the Olympic village along with a GB firm and then providing affordable housing to thousands of people who would normally struggle to find somewhere to own in the area

 

[Alucard]

That article explains who manages both groups of properties, it doesn't state who owns them.

A few mins on Google and I found several links to articles which explained the whole Olympic Park site, flats included, were sold to a joint bid by a British firm called Delancey and the Qatari investment firm Qatari Diar.

You are quite correct, the deal was done on the quiet, it was a Qatar Middle eastern family company that bought the Olympic village that was supposed to be turned into sheltered housing after the event and now this private foreign company owns it and the apartments are for private rent and the UK Government has pocketed the money..

 

[ger147]

Cheers :thup:

So the question is now to alucard - whats. wrong with them buying the Olympic village along with a GB firm and then providing affordable housing to thousands of people who would normally struggle to find somewhere to own in the area

They're not providing affordable housing as such, they are keeping them and renting them out instead.

 

[Alucard]

Cheers :thup:

So the question is now to alucard - whats. wrong with them buying the Olympic village along with a GB firm and then providing affordable housing to thousands of people who would normally struggle to find somewhere to own in the area

Well in my opinion its wrong to sell off our country to foreigners and it was stated that the Olympic village would be used to house disadvantaged people when the games were over.

"The affordable housing" is not really affordable at all unless you are the Aga Khan and then only around 23 to 30 percent has been earmarked as "Affordable" the rest has been hi jacked for more expensive tastes.
If you do not agree thats ok but we will just have to agree to disagree otherwise.

 

[ger147]

You are quite correct, the deal was done on the quiet, it was a Qatar Middle eastern family company that bought the Olympic village that was supposed to be turned into sheltered housing after the event and now this private foreign company owns it and the apartments are for private rent and the UK Government has pocketed the money..

It wasn't done on the quiet, it was reported widely at the time. And the money went back into the Olympic contingency fund.

And the Qataris don't own it alone, they own it jointly with a British firm.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and look it up...

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well in my opinion its wrong to sell off our country to foreigners and it was stated that the Olympic village would be used to house disadvantaged people when the games were over.
If you do not agree thats ok but we will just have to agree to disagree otherwise.

They actually only own half the Olympic Village in partnership with a GB company

The other half is owned by Triathlon Homes

All money from both sales went back into the Olympic contingency fund