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Losing 5 holes

Do you start your PSR whilst the others are putting? I accept that it is not always possible but would have thought it would be for a lot of the time. This would cut down on the time taken.
My PSR is mostly about setting putter face to the line I want then taking my stance. I will have a look for my line before it’s ny turn if it’s appropriate to do so. My PSR includes a quick check on any predetermined line. I do my PSR for even the shortest 12-18” putts - though I don’t normally need to I do so as I need to embed my PSR for all putts that merit it. If I can do it for a 12” putt I will do it for an18-24” one - i easy miss too many of them.
 
No. Last group out, a 3 ball as were all the others. I player the sole reason. Took 4 mins to access a put even before taking the shot, as an example. The group in front finished when this group were still on 13. It toally detsroyed the other 2 players game. BUt the slow player is a "good" player apparently, and seems to be allowed to get away with it.

To be honest, I don't understand how this happens. Effectively the group is losing a hole every 3 holes. I'm guessing the 2 players just stood there in silence, seething inside, watching the other player take an age.

After 3 holes you notice you've lost a hole on the group in front, you mention it to the group. After 6 holes you've now lost 2 holes on the group in front, you make it really clear that we are out of position and need to speed up. After 10 holes you're now 3 holes behind, you have to explain that this is not acceptable.
 
Depending on the layout of the course, you may not know you are 3, 4, 5 holes behind the group in front. You will know you are behind, but not necessarily how far behind. With a number of courses, you can only see the hole you are on, maybe some of the next one.

The player holding everyone up has no excuse but the pp's may not have been aware quite how far behind they were.
 
When I am picking my line and addressing the ball. I don’t hang about and don’t hold anyone up.
I think my pre-shot routine (putts) is pretty quick. I’ll be making a general assessment as I’m walking to the green and waiting my turn, in terms of whether it’s uphill or downhill, general conditions. When it’s my turn to putt, I put the ball back down, take a few steps back, plumb bob for maybe 5 seconds, pick a spot to go over, address the ball and hit. I don’t take a practice swing and try not to over think it too much, just go with instinct. I couldn’t pick my line until it’s my turn to putt because the spot I’m rolling over can sometimes disappear or be hard to find again in differing light, but I reckon I take 20 seconds from placing the ball back down to hitting my putt, if that.

4 minutes over one putt is shocking. Not even the pros take that long.
 
The player holding everyone up has no excuse but the pp's may not have been aware quite how far behind they were.
More like they didn’t want to get into an argument with a 17 yr old girl / woman.

That’s never a good thing and they may find themselves on the other end of a safeguarding issue.
 
More like they didn’t want to get into an argument with a 17 yr old girl / woman.

That’s never a good thing and they may find themselves on the other end of a safeguarding issue.
Safeguarding shouldn't even come into this sort of thing. If you speak politely to the girl, explain the issue and what is needed to correct the situation, then it can be done without any comeback for either party. Unfortunately, it seems in this case, for some reason the 2 playing partners did not intervene so this lead to the big gap.
 
Safeguarding shouldn't even come into this sort of thing. If you speak politely to the girl, explain the issue and what is needed to correct the situation, then it can be done without any comeback for either party. Unfortunately, it seems in this case, for some reason the 2 playing partners did not intervene so this lead to the big gap.
If the other players were male, especially older, I tend to agree with @clubchamp98 . Even if it isn't a safeguarding issue you would not want to come across as bullying or making her feel uncomfortable. It's a tricky area and one that people may feel awkward in addressing whilst actually out on the course. Better to be resolved afterwards with witnesses, follow procedure etc
 
Why did the other 2 players in the Group not state that they had lost a full hole with the Group in front and we should let the Group behind through?

Thought that applied through out golf.
 
If the other players were male, especially older, I tend to agree with @clubchamp98 . Even if it isn't a safeguarding issue you would not want to come across as bullying or making her feel uncomfortable. It's a tricky area and one that people may feel awkward in addressing whilst actually out on the course. Better to be resolved afterwards with witnesses, follow procedure etc
The other 2 were ladies, 1 being the ex lady Captain. The girl (because that is what she is) is the lowest lady at the club, is going Stateside on a golf thing and was lowest gross both days and won the ladies club championship. Sunuday she only caused a 2 hole loss on the group in front.
Everything she did was methodical, aim point, assessing putts for line and lie etc. The course does tend to hide the group in front, but nothing said was listened to.
From how her father was described (obnoxious wee implement) I can see how and why she is like it. She is living out mummy and daddies dream.
 
The other 2 were ladies, 1 being the ex lady Captain. The girl (because that is what she is) is the lowest lady at the club, is going Stateside on a golf thing and was lowest gross both days and won the ladies club championship. Sunuday she only caused a 2 hole loss on the group in front.
Everything she did was methodical, aim point, assessing putts for line and lie etc. The course does tend to hide the group in front, but nothing said was listened to.
From how her father was described (obnoxious wee implement) I can see how and why she is like it. She is living out mummy and daddies dream.
Simplest answer here then is the club should have applied rule 5.6a which could have led to her being disqualified from the competition, she doesn’t get to be club champion. Mummy and Daddy can kick off, be shown the rule book and advised that if they don’t like it then they best start getting used to it!

Little lady can go off to America and hopefully your club will be all the better off for it with better place of play.

Until penalties and bans happen this will never go away.
 
Safeguarding shouldn't even come into this sort of thing. If you speak politely to the girl, explain the issue and what is needed to correct the situation, then it can be done without any comeback for either party. Unfortunately, it seems in this case, for some reason the 2 playing partners did not intervene so this lead to the big gap.
When my daughter was 17 she never listened to a word I said.
I can’t see a stranger doing anything else.
 
Simplest answer here then is the club should have applied rule 5.6a which could have led to her being disqualified from the competition, she doesn’t get to be club champion. Mummy and Daddy can kick off, be shown the rule book and advised that if they don’t like it then they best start getting used to it!

Little lady can go off to America and hopefully your club will be all the better off for it with better place of play.

Until penalties and bans happen this will never go away.
Sometimes, clubs dont want to create waves and keep their "status".
 
Simplest answer here then is the club should have applied rule 5.6a which could have led to her being disqualified from the competition, she doesn’t get to be club champion. Mummy and Daddy can kick off, be shown the rule book and advised that if they don’t like it then they best start getting used to it!

Little lady can go off to America and hopefully your club will be all the better off for it with better place of play.

Until penalties and bans happen this will never go away.
Agree.
Just don’t sign her card until the committee has been informed.
 
If the other players were male, especially older, I tend to agree with @clubchamp98 . Even if it isn't a safeguarding issue you would not want to come across as bullying or making her feel uncomfortable. It's a tricky area and one that people may feel awkward in addressing whilst actually out on the course. Better to be resolved afterwards with witnesses, follow procedure etc

Are you thinking about the headlines in the Daily Mail? "Barely legal female golfer hounded out of golf club by middle aged men."
 
That’s a very poor way to run a club and a great way to upset majority of members to pander to the few. Regardless of how good someone is, the club is for the members not for the individuals.
Many clubs like the kudos of having a certain level of golfer amongst their membership. I'm told it encourages other"good" golfers to join.
Also some clubs are just too far up themselves.
 
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