Look the part

[Slab]

A question. Would you clean and polish your car before a 100 mile winter trip in the rain?

Have done on occasion (& regretted it when seeing the weather but wouldn't mean its the last time I'd clean it) didn't wash it in the rain obviously, and if it helps my cars parked outside the office and its a bit manky at the moment, no wash in two weeks

I'm struggling with the relevance to the thread topic though but I could counter with, would you wear last weeks polo shirt without washing it first?



Edit: anyway clean & polish the car is a 2-4 hour job... shoes 5 minutes

 

[Imurg]

I fear we're pushing the limits of the topic now, but where on earth is a player practicing to get their shoes in such a state (doubtless it'll happen and everyone will have dirty shoes and they'll all know why)

None of the dirty shoe gang have claimed they arrive with clean shoes but get them dirty practicing. I think everyone's been honest enough to indicate they do/don't clean before a game

If its a matchplay they may even have been out and played 9.....
Many reasons why shoes might not be pristine on the first tee...
And if it bothers you then you're thinking too much about it and not your own game..

 

[hovis]

Have done on occasion (& regretted it when seeing the weather but wouldn't mean its the last time I'd clean it) didn't wash it in the rain obviously, and if it helps my cars parked outside the office and its a bit manky at the moment, no wash in two weeks

I'm struggling with the relevance to the thread topic though but I could counter with, would you wear last weeks polo shirt without washing it first?



Edit: anyway clean & polish the car is a 2-4 hour job... shoes 5 minutes

If my clothes are clean after a round i put them back on the hanger.

Btw, i clean my shoes inbetween holes because the ocd in me hates looking down at mud splashes (just a quick wipe with a towel) but for someone to say its disrespectful is rubbish. Typical stuck up golf snobbery. My pp could wear fish net stockings and i wouldn't care

 

[Slab]

If its a matchplay they may even have been out and played 9.....
Many reasons why shoes might not be pristine on the first tee...
And if it bothers you then you're thinking too much about it and not your own game..

Bold 1: but then I'd know I'd already played 9 with dirty shoe man & why our shoes were already manky wouldn't I
Bold 2: that's why I said earlier today that it didn't matter to me, just surprised by those opinions that differ from mine and trying to understand the point of view

 

[Slab]

If my clothes are clean after a round i put them back on the hanger.

Btw, i clean my shoes inbetween holes because the ocd in me hates looking down at mud splashes (just a quick wipe with a towel) but for someone to say its disrespectful is rubbish. Typical stuck up golf snobbery. My pp could wear fish net stockings and i wouldn't care

I'm not sure I would go as far as saying its disrespectful. Anyway I don't think how I dress is as a matter of respect to others, its more likely to be that clean golf kit isn't of any importance to dirty shoe man or they haven't even thought about it

 

[Snelly]

It might tell you something about my shoes. It tells you nothing about me.
Judging others on their appearance says something about the Judge.

And on that, I'm out.

I totally agree with you here. Judging anything about someone's character by the cleanliness of their golf shoes (shoes that are designed for walking around on wet grass, mud and sand) is completely ridiculous in my opinion.

But then I have never cleaned my golf shoes with anything apart from the air hose provided by the club.


I am much more judgemental about golfers who turn up looking like they have just stepped out of a shop window in a pro shop with pristine kit, all the latest toys and no expense spared who then proceed to demonstrate that they are are not exactly brilliant at the game. Those with all the gear and no idea are usually not much fun to play with. Invariably armchair experts too who can always tell you what is wrong with your equipment or why you didn't hit the last shot as you wanted to.

I also judge people with bad etiquette unfavourably as this does say something about the manners of a person.

But these both pale into insignificance with people who are slow. Anyone who slows the game down or makes the rest of the party wait at every turn is someone I will try to avoid ever playing with again. The pace of play will probably be the reason I eventually give the game up. Slow players are killing golf but hey ho, at least their sodding shoes are clean. :angry:

 

[Jimaroid]

I keep misreading this thread title as "Look the prat" and it seems more appropriate. I try to treat others how I'd like to be treated and how a person chooses to dress has no bearing on their character or ability. Prejudice is not a nice characteristic to have, the sooner more people realise that the better off we'll be. But sadly, in our current age of vanity obsessed media, I don't see it improving any time soon.

 

[bluewolf]

I totally agree with you here. Judging anything about someone's character by the cleanliness of their golf shoes (shoes that are designed for walking around on wet grass, mud and sand) is completely ridiculous in my opinion.

But then I have never cleaned my golf shoes with anything apart from the air hose provided by the club.


I am much more judgemental about golfers who turn up looking like they have just stepped out of a shop window in a pro shop with pristine kit, all the latest toys and no expense spared who then proceed to demonstrate that they are are not exactly brilliant at the game. Those with all the gear and no idea are usually not much fun to play with. Invariably armchair experts too who can always tell you what is wrong with your equipment or why you didn't hit the last shot as you wanted to.

I also judge people with bad etiquette unfavourably as this does say something about the manners of a person.

But these both pale into insignificance with people who are slow. Anyone who slows the game down or makes the rest of the party wait at every turn is someone I will try to avoid ever playing with again. The pace of play will probably be the reason I eventually give the game up. Slow players are killing golf but hey ho, at least their sodding shoes are clean. :angry:

Damn.... I agree with Snelly !!!!!!!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I totally agree with you here. Judging anything about someone's character by the cleanliness of their golf shoes (shoes that are designed for walking around on wet grass, mud and sand) is completely ridiculous in my opinion.

But then I have never cleaned my golf shoes with anything apart from the air hose provided by the club.


I am much more judgemental about golfers who turn up looking like they have just stepped out of a shop window in a pro shop with pristine kit, all the latest toys and no expense spared who then proceed to demonstrate that they are are not exactly brilliant at the game. Those with all the gear and no idea are usually not much fun to play with. Invariably armchair experts too who can always tell you what is wrong with your equipment or why you didn't hit the last shot as you wanted to.

I also judge people with bad etiquette unfavourably as this does say something about the manners of a person.

But these both pale into insignificance with people who are slow. Anyone who slows the game down or makes the rest of the party wait at every turn is someone I will try to avoid ever playing with again. The pace of play will probably be the reason I eventually give the game up. Slow players are killing golf but hey ho, at least their sodding shoes are clean. :angry:

Agreed :thup:

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Agreed :thup:

I take it you disagree with everything not in bold Phil, especially as you replied in a similar manner to the OP?😜

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I take it you disagree with everything not in bold Phil, especially as you replied in a similar manner to the OP?😜

I agree with the OP in liking to be smart when playing golf - it's the way i have gone through life - especially in the military - smart clothes , smart attitude. It doesn't take much to look presentable

As for muddy shoes etc - I don't judge the person as such just wonder why couldn't just take 2 mins to give them a quick clean but plenty of shoes get muddy etc during the winter. Cleaning shoes is not just about being presentable it's also protecting the shoes longevity. Doesn't have to be a full blown clean every time you wear them - a quick wipe after blowing them with the air blast.

As for the all the gear no idea type - loads of them but as long as they are happy then no issues .

 

[North Mimms]

To quote Kevin Costner in "Bull Durham", "you look classy, you play classy. When you win 20 games in the show, you can dress like a slob and people will think you're colourful. Until then you're just a slob".

Totally agree about the impression muddy shoes can set on the first tee.

I wear black shoes in winter and wipe the worst of filth off them.
I don't wear white shoes when it's muddy so they are normally presentable (to me, at least)
I'm not OCD about my shoes.
But even my worst enemy would never describe me as looking like a slob.

 

[JustOne]

I totally agree with you here. Judging anything about someone's character by the cleanliness of their golf shoes (shoes that are designed for walking around on wet grass, mud and sand) is completely ridiculous in my opinion.

But then I have never cleaned my golf shoes with anything apart from the air hose provided by the club.


I am much more judgemental about golfers who turn up looking like they have just stepped out of a shop window in a pro shop with pristine kit, all the latest toys and no expense spared who then proceed to demonstrate that they are are not exactly brilliant at the game. Those with all the gear and no idea are usually not much fun to play with. Invariably 18 h/cap experts too who can always tell you what is wrong with your equipment or why you didn't hit the last shot as you wanted to.

I also judge people with bad etiquette unfavourably as this does say something about the manners of a person.

But these both pale into insignificance with people who are slow. Anyone who slows the game down or makes the rest of the party wait at every turn is someone I will try to avoid ever playing with again. The pace of play will probably be the reason I eventually give the game up. Slow players are killing golf but hey ho, at least their sodding shoes are clean. :angry:

I agree completely (apart from the bit I've edited slightly). My shoes have never seen more than the air blower and a scrubbing brush/water provided at East Sussex National.

 

[North Mimms]

Mind you, I've moved to a club where they offer a shoe cleaning service, so I may yet join the OCD brigade

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I think the walking off after 7 holes says more about the character than the state of his shoes, I've no interest whatsoever in the condition of my pp's attire, that's their business.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think the walking off after 7 holes says more about the character than the state of his shoes.

Totally agree. Unless it was for medical reasons, urgent work or a family issue I can't see why you'd do that.

 

[JustOne]

FWIW My underwear is always clean, fresh and jasmine fragranced :mmm:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I think the walking off after 7 holes says more about the character than the state of his shoes, I've no interest whatsoever in the condition of my pp's attire, that's their business.

You should play with PJ - surprised he lasted 7 holes


Only seen one walk in and that was in my very first club champs - guy walked in after hitting tee shot on 6th a was a 19 HC and only dropped 3 shots by then

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Had a number of guys walk in after nine when it's been going badly. Very disappointing but at the end of the day it's suppose to be relaxation and a hobby so I guess if they aren't enjoying it then no point carrying on

 

[North Mimms]

FWIW My underwear is always clean, fresh and jasmine fragranced :mmm:

Always good to know!