Life.

[JackBrocklehurst]

Have u asked at all the local golf clubs, shop assistant to assistant to greenskeeper etc? Could be something. How about retail? Direct golf, American golf?

On the fitness side, you say you are qualified, why not try personal training? All you need are some business cards or a poster? No jobs in the local gyms?

I would love to love what I do for work, I am a slave to salary unfortunately. I would like to run a motorbike race team or own a golf course, that would be my dream job.

Good luck in what you choose, just remember its about work/personal life balance. I work hard so I can enjoy family time and the odd game of golf.

Yeah I've asked my local club on a few occasions and I'm going to ask this week again and hope for the best, emailed all the American Golf's around me and there's nothing, emailed a few driving ranges and there's nothing at the moment, hard industry to get into for sure! But once you're in, that's the hardest bit done.

Yeah I'm level 2 fitness instructing qualified, to be a PT i'd have to do my level 3 which costs about £3k, some Gyms will pay for that if they wanted me to progress to a PT but it's getting the initial job in the gym. And nope, nothing in the local Gyms at the moment, keeping my eye on everything though.

Yeah running a race team would be a dream, even working as a Mech for a race team would be great. You a fan of MotoGP at all? and also owning a golf course would be an absolute dream! Incredible 'job' haha.

 

[chrisd]

I think that you need a reality check Jack. You can't start a business with no money, you can't get into a job you love with no experience and any job where getting in is "the hardest bit done" doesn't sound like a good job to me!

I'm fast approaching the end of my working days. I got my first paper round aged 10 and became a butchers boy at 11 until I left school aged 15 and have never yet had a day out of work in my life. I started my own business 22 years ago risking everything I owned and am now selling up and closing down to semi retire. Like you, I shall be looking for some work, partly as pocket money and also to occupy my mind and unlike you I am willing to consider any offers even though I obviously have 45 years of business experience but i am not assuming that anyone will offer me employment based on that.

My advice would be, like others on here have said, apply for any job that you think you could do and, if offered, take it. Get some experience and knowledge of the workplace under your belt and then start looking for the jobs that will improve your life for the future. You can't ignore the benefit of the work environment and what importance employers place on experience gained there. For what it's worth, my son worked in Burger King whilst at school, this helped when he applied for employment in banking and now he works in the construction industry earning far more than I do! It was the selling burgers that got him his chance though!

 

[JackBrocklehurst]

I think that you need a reality check Jack. You can't start a business with no money, you can't get into a job you love with no experience and any job where getting in is "the hardest bit done" doesn't sound like a good job to me!

I'm fast approaching the end of my working days. I got my first paper round aged 10 and became a butchers boy at 11 until I left school aged 15 and have never yet had a day out of work in my life. I started my own business 22 years ago risking everything I owned and am now selling up and closing down to semi retire. Like you, I shall be looking for some work, partly as pocket money and also to occupy my mind and unlike you I am willing to consider any offers even though I obviously have 45 years of business experience but i am not assuming that anyone will offer me employment based on that.

My advice would be, like others on here have said, apply for any job that you think you could do and, if offered, take it. Get some experience and knowledge of the workplace under your belt and then start looking for the jobs that will improve your life for the future. You can't ignore the benefit of the work environment and what importance employers place on experience gained there. For what it's worth, my son worked in Burger King whilst at school, this helped when he applied for employment in banking and now he works in the construction industry earning far more than I do! It was the selling burgers that got him his chance though!

When I said 'The hardest bit done' that's because it will seem like it's not working to me, doing something you love isn't classed as work to me, it's just doing something you love with the benefit of getting paid. Too many people spend their life miserable for 5 days just so they can spend 2 days off, I want something where I'll enjoy my life for 7 days, whether the pay is **** or good. It's just who I am.

I'm pretty sure you will get employed with your 45 years of Business experience, as that's what employers are looking for. Experience seems to beat everything.

I think I could do most jobs, it's just limited in my location as there really isn't much around my local area. There's plenty more 18 year olds just like me about too, just seems to be more on Job Seekers not doing much else which I get branded in.

 

[chrisd]

When I said 'The hardest bit done' that's because it will seem like it's not working to me, doing something you love isn't classed as work to me, it's just doing something you love with the benefit of getting paid. Too many people spend their life miserable for 5 days just so they can spend 2 days off, I want something where I'll enjoy my life for 7 days, whether the pay is **** or good. It's just who I am.

I'm pretty sure you will get employed with your 45 years of Business experience, as that's what employers are looking for. Experience seems to beat everything.

I think I could do most jobs, it's just limited in my location as there really isn't much around my local area. There's plenty more 18 year olds just like me about too, just seems to be more on Job Seekers not doing much else which I get branded in.

Jack, most people end up in jobs that they are disenchanted with and would like a change later in life no matter how great the job seemed at the start. My ageing uncle was an artist and worked for the BBC for many years. He did loads of artwork in the 60's to 90,s that everyone saw on tv like the club crests on MOTD. I was chatting to him about 5 years before his retirement and he said he hated the job and wished he could stop - imagine, he was a brilliant artist from childhood doing his favourite hobby as paid employment!

The truth is that there are a limited number of jobs you could do without training and if you're waiting around for the perfect one then you'll be unlikely ever to work. Friends of mine who have been laid off get told that on Jobseekers Allowance that they have to take any job that they get offered, are you not told the same?

 

[JackBrocklehurst]

Jack, most people end up in jobs that they are disenchanted with and would like a change later in life no matter how great the job seemed at the start. My ageing uncle was an artist and worked for the BBC for many years. He did loads of artwork in the 60's to 90,s that everyone saw on tv like the club crests on MOTD. I was chatting to him about 5 years before his retirement and he said he hated the job and wished he could stop - imagine, he was a brilliant artist from childhood doing his favourite hobby as paid employment!

The truth is that there are a limited number of jobs you could do without training and if you're waiting around for the perfect one then you'll be unlikely ever to work. Friends of mine who have been laid off get told that on Jobseekers Allowance that they have to take any job that they get offered, are you not told the same?

Yeah, I've been emailing about a lot lately for most places just to see if there really is anything but no luck yet.
Sounds mental! haha. I guess everyone is different though.

It's not that I'm not willing do to training, start at the lowest of low or whatever because I certainly am I just want that lowest of low job to be related to something I'd enjoy eventually and there is opportunities like that out there it's just hard to find them but I'm going to keep trying until I do!

And I'm not on JSA, I don't want to go on it. Sadly it's used for the wrong reasons by many people.

 

[chrisd]

Yeah, I've been emailing about a lot lately for most places just to see if there really is anything but no luck yet.
Sounds mental! haha. I guess everyone is different though.

It's not that I'm not willing do to training, start at the lowest of low or whatever because I certainly am I just want that lowest of low job to be related to something I'd enjoy eventually and there is opportunities like that out there it's just hard to find them but I'm going to keep trying until I do!

And I'm not on JSA, I don't want to go on it. Sadly it's used for the wrong reasons by many people.

I think that he point you are missing Jack is that you need work to show an employer that you are fit for employment. It can be any work at this stage and restricting yourself to employment in areas of your interest won't necessarily be helpful in finding work in your interest areas in the future.

These days people change jobs frequently and staying in a job too long is seen as lacking drive, in my day changing regularly was seen as being someone ho couldn't hold down a job - how times change.

I still say, take any sensible job offer, paid or not, work hard and get a reputation, study and train hard and apply for better jobs.

 

[El Bandito]

Jack, no offence, but your arguments sound self-serving. You can't find a job that you believe you will like, so you don't take any job. My reality is that I do a job that I love, that I got into completely by accident. Even though I love my job, there are days, weeks even months that are tough. There are elements of the work that I don't enjoy. However, I firmly believe that there are many elements to work, and that there are many jobs that you may enjoy, but have not heard of. Maybe look at each job as an opportunity to experience something different, meet some new people and maybe discover some new talents? There is nothing to stop you moving on from a job if you find something better...in the meantime you will learn things that will serve you when you do find your niche....

 

[Tiger]

I feel sorry for Jack and wish you guys would get off his case. Many of you sound like you hate your job and are begrudging a lad who wants to find a job he loves. We've exchanged PMs and hopefully I'll be able to help him out. Some times this place is not very uplifting...

 

[chrisd]

I feel sorry for Jack and wish you guys would get off his case. Many of you sound like you hate your job and are begrudging a lad who wants to find a job he loves. We've exchanged PMs and hopefully I'll be able to help him out. Some times this place is not very uplifting...

To be fair Tiger I think we've posted very responsibly our views, and no ones been rude or over judgemental on Jack. The beauty of a good forum is that when someone asks for advice it is given warts and all but certainly, in this thread IMHO very fairly!

 

[Rooter]

To be fair Tiger I think we've posted very responsibly our views, and no ones been rude or over judgemental on Jack. The beauty of a good forum is that when someone asks for advice it is given warts and all but certainly, in this thread IMHO very fairly!

I agree with Chris, a lot of decent advice given to the lad with no abuse to speak of.. And you are helping him tiger, hope it all works out for all!!

 

[Tiger]

I never said anything about abusive messages but lots of 'get a job get any job and don't expect to enjoy it' posts. IMHO not overly helpful but let's just agree to disagree

 

[tsped83]

I stumbled upon this thread thinking it was to do with something else, alas. Looking for 'life' advice on a golf forum is mental.

As for the any job/dream job issue, go and get ANY job. No one has their dream job, otherwise it wouldn't be a job, but a 'hobby'.

 

[Tiger]

I stumbled upon this thread thinking it was to do with something else, alas. Looking for 'life' advice on a golf forum is mental.

As for the any job/dream job issue, go and get ANY job. No one has their dream job, otherwise it wouldn't be a job, but a 'hobby'.

And another one...

For the record I love my job, challenging, demanding, frustrating (at times) but immensely rewarding. I must be a freak of nature...

 

[Rooter]

And another one...

For the record I love my job, challenging, demanding, frustrating (at times) but immensely rewarding. I must be a freak of nature...

Not a freak, very lucky! ;-)

 

[Blue in Munich]

Not a freak, very lucky! ;-)

Indeed.

 

[Andy]

People moan about Polish and other foreign workers but with an attitude like yours the country would be gubbed.

I work with 2 polish guys on a daily basis and nothing is too much for them. They are crusher operators in Demolition so nowt glamouris in what they do.

Loads of jobs out there to be found. Get out and find a job because you'll be a long time waiting on it coming to get you.

When was the last time you visited the job centre?

 

[SocketRocket]

People moan about Polish and other foreign workers but with an attitude like yours the country would be gubbed.

I work with 2 polish guys on a daily basis and nothing is too much for them. They are crusher operators in Demolition so nowt glamouris in what they do.

Loads of jobs out there to be found. Get out and find a job because you'll be a long time waiting on it coming to get you.

When was the last time you visited the job centre?

In Poland they would work or starve. That's what has given them a work ethic.

 

[JackBrocklehurst]

To be fair Tiger I think we've posted very responsibly our views, and no ones been rude or over judgemental on Jack. The beauty of a good forum is that when someone asks for advice it is given warts and all but certainly, in this thread IMHO very fairly!

Not rude no, but I simply posted this to see what people had done with their careers and to see what stages people were at when they were 18, also to see if what I'm feeling is normal which I guess it pretty much is. I appreciate all the replies but it does seem most people have jumped in just to tell me how hard they had it, times have changed now.

 

[JackBrocklehurst]

I stumbled upon this thread thinking it was to do with something else, alas. Looking for 'life' advice on a golf forum is mental.

As for the any job/dream job issue, go and get ANY job. No one has their dream job, otherwise it wouldn't be a job, but a 'hobby'.

It was originally posted for information on people's lives as to what they have done and to see if anyone had landed their dream job and if feeling like this at 18 is normal, it's gone off that subject completely and just ended up in telling me to work at McD's or whatever I can get literally. Wasn't posted looking for advice, just to get a general idea of things.

 

[JackBrocklehurst]

People moan about Polish and other foreign workers but with an attitude like yours the country would be gubbed.

I work with 2 polish guys on a daily basis and nothing is too much for them. They are crusher operators in Demolition so nowt glamouris in what they do.

Loads of jobs out there to be found. Get out and find a job because you'll be a long time waiting on it coming to get you.

When was the last time you visited the job centre?

People moan about Polish workers because this is our country which should give more jobs to our citizens, that's all. I'm pretty sure people don't moan about Polish workers for their work ethic. And comparing an 18 year old lad to an immigrant isn't really fair either, of course they're going to jump at jobs most people would prefer not to do.