Life.

The services and the police have very good sports and golf teams, events etc.
I used to play with an ex army golf champ and he had a wonderful time for a few years representing the Army at golf around the world and the rest of the time playing with the senior officers.
I also know a few ex services guys who moved into golf management and have been very successful.

Jack, when I was your age most of the golf courses in Britain were run by retired Winco's and Colonels.
Perhaps that is an area you may wish to consider. You do seem to 'lighten up' when the services are mentioned.
The more strings to your bow the better.

Speaking of which I saw a van displaying a good business model for those who say they can't afford to start their own business.

It read........Garden services/ window cleaning/ car valeting.
Clever stuff, three bites at the same cherry.

I know the police golf society round me plays the best courses a lot for not much money. Well done I say. No idea if freemasonary is involved in the arrangement but it sounds a sweet gig to be in the policy golf society to me.;)
 
Wow, some bordering on offensive replies on here.

Jack if I was you at your age I'd be round all the local courses and see if they have anything going from helping out in the pro shop, collecting balls on the range to possibily shadowing the greenkeepers - either paid or unpaid.

Alternatively get down to your local fitness centres/swimming baths/sport centres and again see if they have anything or places like Sports Direct etc for part time work. I'd started at 15 in a local sports stores and honestly it was probably the best work experience and times of my working life. You meet so many different people and you could then either look at fitness course/sports physio/golf related courses part time.

Keep at it, keep active and see what happens. I'm 36 and have only just began a new career change.
 
Wow, some bordering on offensive replies on here.

Jack if I was you at your age I'd be round all the local courses and see if they have anything going from helping out in the pro shop, collecting balls on the range to possibily shadowing the greenkeepers - either paid or unpaid.

Alternatively get down to your local fitness centres/swimming baths/sport centres and again see if they have anything or places like Sports Direct etc for part time work. I'd started at 15 in a local sports stores and honestly it was probably the best work experience and times of my working life. You meet so many different people and you could then either look at fitness course/sports physio/golf related courses part time.

Keep at it, keep active and see what happens. I'm 36 and have only just began a new career change.

Yeah I'm doing that at the moment as well as a load of other places, I'm quite sure something will come through.
Yeah, as well as sport equipment shops I'm trying vitamin/supplement shops such as Holland & Barrett etc too. In retail you meet a hell of a lot of people.

Yep, I shall do. Good luck with your career change and thanks for the reply Marshy.
 
Learning to sell in your first job is always a good start in life.
You learn many basic life skills by selling.

My elder daughter said recently that 18 year olds today would be better of getting a job selling in a mobile phone shop than going to university.
They would learn all of the skills necessary to remain employed for many years.
 
Learning to sell in your first job is always a good start in life.
You learn many basic life skills by selling.

My elder daughter said recently that 18 year olds today would be better of getting a job selling in a mobile phone shop than going to university.
They would learn all of the skills necessary to remain employed for many years.

Yeah I agree, face to face work always builds confidence too.

I did a month in Burton Menswear a year back or so, just wasn't needed as to be honest it isn't the busiest shop and there simply wasn't the need for 7-8 staff.
It is a shame Uni doesn't have half it's meaning anymore though but then again I see a lot of people going there for the wrong reasons as well!:rolleyes:
 
Never have I worked anywhere where the recruitment policy would favour a piece of paper qualification to out and out experience.


Jaguar/Land Rover are terrible for this. I once heard of a guy that had been working as a contractor for 5+ years when Jag decided they wanted to take on perms instead of Contractors. This guy didn't get the job as he didn't have a degree. They hired someone with very little experience but had a degree instead.
 
just a quick question to those who keep telling people to get a job,have they tried to get a job these days,most companies are using agency workers on zero hour contracts to cover their workforce or have as in the case of my son finished everyone on contract work then offered them new contracts at nearly a half the original wage and they have to go self employed to boot,in my trade the hourly rate has gone from £15-£18 ph to as little as £8-10 and the influx of cheap labour has dragged down the price a self employed person who runs a small business can charge,i can only assume the ones telling everyone else to get a job are either in a nice comfy job or are getting a nice pension and living on a golden handshake when they retired,i know there are low paid mind numbing jobs out there but if after paying your travel costs and uniform costs and skill training ( yes some firms charge for this) your taking home less than £20 is it worth it,and if you say yes it opens doors for you to progress I ask you progress to were,another dead end low skilled job.
 
I've never said I'm not prepared to work, I've just said I'd rather work in something that will lead on. I'd happily rake bunkers at a Golf Club if it meant it goes onto further work in the Golf Industry. That's the whole point I've made but this thread has been off topic and gone through every kind of scenario in the world! haha.

The opportunities are there if you turn up and try. My brother and I walked to our local golf course when we were 12-13 and got jobs as bag carriers, then caddies (despite only having seen golf on tv). Due to our hard work and can do attitude, in my time there I also worked as a range picker, a green keeper, in their bag drop service area and at the halfway house. I picked the range in a European Tour event and caddied for a pro in a challenge tour event (finished in the top 10 too). I met reps from all parts of the golfing industry and got several offers to caddy for challenge tour players who I got to know. By the end I had earnt enough to cover the costs for my university so decided to pursue my dream to get a job in the media rather than try and make it as a professional caddy.

After leaving uni with my media degree I got a temporary job at a shipping company (I got the job as the manager and I chatted about golf most of the interview). Not what I wanted to do but it just about paid the bills. I found I really enjoyed the shipping industry so when there was an opportunity to get a full time job in vessel operations at the head office I applied (despite not having the required experience). My work in my temp job was well thought of as I got the job and have been working in the industry ever since.

Sadly these days, I think it's very difficult for someone under 16 to get a weekend/evening/summer job due to all the red tape etc.
 
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