Life.

[williamalex1]

I smell a rat, or a sprat to catch. Are you who you say you are Jack, or is this some Boldrick plan.

 

[tyke]

When I was 18 years old I was in the forces in the Falkland Island's, my lad is currently 18 and serving in Afghanistan.
Very few people get the dream job, but the majority of people do work!

 

[JackBrocklehurst]

When I was 18 years old I was in the forces in the Falkland Island's, my lad is currently 18 and serving in Afghanistan.
Very few people get the dream job, but the majority of people do work!

What was it like in the forces?
Yeah that's literally all I wanted to see, the whole reason why I posted this.
By the way, we got away with a cheeky little win at Ipswich on the weekend didn't we? haha.

 

[chrisd]

Not rude no, but I simply posted this to see what people had done with their careers and to see what stages people were at when they were 18, also to see if what I'm feeling is normal which I guess it pretty much is. I appreciate all the replies but it does seem most people have jumped in just to tell me how hard they had it, times have changed now.

If you arnt willing to accept all of the postings in the spirit they have been written and the development of the thread as its moved on then maybe you shouldn't ask questions on a forum about lifestyle choice

And, yes Jack, things have changed during my life and I don't happen to think its changed for the better.

 

[JackBrocklehurst]

If you arnt willing to accept all of the postings in the spirit they have been written and the development of the thread as its moved on then maybe you shouldn't ask questions on a forum about lifestyle choice

And, yes Jack, things have changed during my life and I don't happen to think its changed for the better.

Yeah, maybe it's a lesson learnt. Just golfers are usually generally relatable and I thought it'd be a good ideas to get mixed views from different people and their lives on here.

And yeah, I think it's only getting worse to be honest. Shame me and many others my age think that really.

 

[Brad_Pinhorn]

I think a few people need to get back in their caves in here...
The kid's asked for a bit of advice and a bit of perspective on how others who have potentially dealt with the same situations have gone about setting things 'right'. Yet it seems most people have replied with more than a scent arrogance. Times have changed, finding work when younger is a lot harder than people think, I know a lot of 20+ year olds struggling to find any form of job, or sustain one they're in, and that's not due to their work ethic or the effort they're willing to put in, it's a genuine struggle.

To be in here telling this guy how hard you've all had it, putting your points across in often derogatory ways is a little harsh. This is a golf forum, he's mentioned golf as the thing he loves the most, and this is meant to be a 'gentleman's' sport...yet I fail to see a group of gentlemen in here...

Now this doesn't go for all the replies, there are a few genuinely nice replies here. I just feel the direction of most of the replies is a little off.

Now to actually reply... A general theme has been find any job, and I agree with this. Employers are more likely to look at you if you're in work already, like I've said, it's not that easy, but if you can apply for any job you see then do, and chase up those places, if there's no reply, ring and find out why/what the situation is...a bit of effort like that or your name coming up a few times, a bit of eagerness, will go a long way. Another route would be to look into education, college or something like that? You're still young and if you love golf, as you clearly do, there are a lot of college courses for that around.

Best of luck with it all mate!

 

[tyke]

I smell a rat, or a sprat to catch. Are you who you say you are Jack, or is this some Boldrick plan.

Looks that way.

 

[SocketRocket]

Yeah, maybe it's a lesson learnt. Just golfers are usually generally relatable and I thought it'd be a good ideas to get mixed views from different people and their lives on here.

And yeah, I think it's only getting worse to be honest. Shame me and many others my age think that really.

Jack.

Your current lifestyle is being paid for by other people who have to get up in the morning and do a days work, in may cases work that they don't like doing. Not sure if those people are your family or the tax payer but seems to me that you need to take a reality check and do something yourself.

 

[JackBrocklehurst]

Jack.

Your current lifestyle is being paid for by other people who have to get up in the morning and do a days work, in may cases work that they don't like doing. Not sure if those people are your family or the tax payer but seems to me that you need to take a reality check and do something yourself.

Yeah I understand that. But luckily for me my parents are both very understanding, supportive and know that when something does come along that I really want to do I'll be fine at it. I really don't ask for much, if anything to be honest, I just get on with my things . Of course I'd like to help. I have had previous work before on various things, it's just moving onto another step. Like one of the posts said a few posts ago, this thread has changed a lot from original intention now this thread is just about me and my next job when I really wanted it to be about what people have done with their lives to get a better understanding.
At the end of the day, noone on this thread knows who I am all they know me by is a few replies and my original post.
I'm certainly not a doss around, and I don't need a reality check I understand I need a job. This thread has just gone a completely different way.

 

[williamalex1]

Yeah I understand that. But luckily for me my parents are both very understanding, supportive and know that when something does come along that I really want to do I'll be fine at it. I really don't ask for much, if anything to be honest, I just get on with my things . Of course I'd like to help. I have had previous work before on various things, it's just moving onto another step. Like one of the posts said a few posts ago, this thread has changed a lot from original intention now this thread is just about me and my next job when I really wanted it to be about what people have done with their lives to get a better understanding.
At the end of the day, noone on this thread knows who I am all they know me by is a few replies and my original post.
I'm certainly not a doss around, and I don't need a reality check I understand I need a job. This thread has just gone a completely different way.

Jack-as Frank sang that's life.

 

[TheClaw]

Study health & fitness at college? That's what changed my life. At 18 I sold trainers in a sports shop...mind-numbing.

I went to college...then Uni, was lucky enough to get a sports development job....fancied teaching so went back to Uni.

I'm now a lecturer at the college where it all started and I love my job.

You've got to want it :thup:q

 

[chrisd]

I think a few people need to get back in their caves in here...
The kid's asked for a bit of advice and a bit of perspective on how others who have potentially dealt with the same situations have gone about setting things 'right'. Yet it seems most people have replied with more than a scent arrogance. Times have changed, finding work when younger is a lot harder than people think, I know a lot of 20+ year olds struggling to find any form of job, or sustain one they're in, and that's not due to their work ethic or the effort they're willing to put in, it's a genuine struggle.

To be in here telling this guy how hard you've all had it, putting your points across in often derogatory ways is a little harsh. This is a golf forum, he's mentioned golf as the thing he loves the most, and this is meant to be a 'gentleman's' sport...yet I fail to see a group of gentlemen in here...

Now this doesn't go for all the replies, there are a few genuinely nice replies here. I just feel the direction of most of the replies is a little off.

Now to actually reply... A general theme has been find any job, and I agree with this. Employers are more likely to look at you if you're in work already, like I've said, it's not that easy, but if you can apply for any job you see then do, and chase up those places, if there's no reply, ring and find out why/what the situation is...a bit of effort like that or your name coming up a few times, a bit of eagerness, will go a long way. Another route would be to look into education, college or something like that? You're still young and if you love golf, as you clearly do, there are a lot of college courses for that around.

Best of luck with it all mate!

Welcome to the forum Brad

I disagree with your summation. If you read Jacks original post he asks us to give a history of how things were when we started out at work and what we did to get into the jobs we did/do. Most threads of this type on an open forum degenerate to the degree that the mods rightly pull them in the end. This one IMHO has stayed polite and well in track but people including me have given advice to Jack that is at odds with what he wanted to hear, but I for one, speak with 45 years work experience and someone who has employed people over that time and believe that what I have posted is both fair and reasonable and certainly factual.

Surely no one expects us all to agree on the best way forward for Jack, but, funnily enough your advice to him matches exactly what most of us have said.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Yeah I understand that. But luckily for me my parents are both very understanding, supportive and know that when something does come along that I really want to do I'll be fine at it. I really don't ask for much, if anything to be honest, I just get on with my things . Of course I'd like to help. I have had previous work before on various things, it's just moving onto another step. Like one of the posts said a few posts ago, this thread has changed a lot from original intention now this thread is just about me and my next job when I really wanted it to be about what people have done with their lives to get a better understanding.
At the end of the day, noone on this thread knows who I am all they know me by is a few replies and my original post.
I'm certainly not a doss around, and I don't need a reality check I understand I need a job. This thread has just gone a completely different way.

Hi Jack, don't worry about it. Most golfers are middle to old aged men stuck in the 1970s who get their views from the Daily Mail and see 18 year olds as hoody wearing layabouts who wear flip flops and jeans to play golf in.

Best of luck in what you do and hope you find something soon.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Hi Jack, don't worry about it. Most golfers are middle to old aged men stuck in the 1970s who get their views from the Daily Mail and see 18 year olds as hoody wearing layabouts who wear flip flops and jeans to play golf in.

Best of luck in what you do and hope you find something soon.

A little bit OOT there Hacker!!

Some of us 'old guys' have family and friends with 18 year olds.

I am very impressed with the 18 year olds I know.
I would go on to say that they have a much better attitude to work and life than my 18 year old generation.

My neighbours 18 year old has just got 3xA's and 2xB's and is hoping to become an Aero/engineer.
He works evenings as a wash up in a local pub and this weekend has just completed a tough charity cycle run.
I don't think he is a rare example.

 

[Fader]

Ok so just sat here and read this thread from the very beginning right up to this post.

IMHO Nobody has said anything derogatory or not in keeping with the original context of the thread. Also can see where those encouraging the OP in his quest for his perfect job are coming from BUT you don't get the perfect job straight away at least not until you have proven your self employable and dependable, both of which cone from experience.

The other thing is just because there are jobs out there which sound like they don't appeal doesn't mean that when doing them they wouldn't seem enjoyable or fit you perfectly until you put yourself out an do it.

I left school at 16 & wanted to study martial arts further in depth but also needed qualifications and a job to pay for that when i reached my 20s. I studied IT at college and went on to work in a support Role for the Woolwich bank and quite enjoyed that as a means to an end. I was made redundant at 21 but hadn't made enough to go on my martial arts quest and spent 7 months out of work so popped into my local Army careers office as I'd had enough of going for interviews in jobs i was qualified for and being rejected. That one meeting remains the best one in my life from a career point of view.

I'd never wanted to be a soldier or join the Army but I'd had enough of not working and not having money to do what I wanted. But it remains the best job I ever had, loved every minute of it. It was rewarding, challenging, testing, gruelling and bloody hard work. But my god was it fun and the people I worked with will be the best friends i have until I take my last breathe.

I came out after 8 years due to family and being away from my young children to long, ironic twist in that not long after coming out did my relationship fail as i couldn't adjust to civvy life properly again. I went back into IT work with BT and hated it and everything about them, so ended up taking a job as Security manager for a top retail company on short term contract and enjoyed a regimented routine in that role but they then outsourced their contracts to someone cheaper.

So now I work for a water company as a direct field liaison between the company, its contractor's and its more difficult customers. Some days in the office, some in the field in all weather. One day I might be on phone helping people (helped one forumer get ball rolling with a leak) other days I will be out stopping customers attacking contractors (happens quite often) then there are days I'll be digging holes just to help get jobs done.
Is it the job I wanted when I was 18 or even when I applied for it? NO
Is it the best job I ever had ?NO that's what the army was
Do I enjoy it ? YES. Sometimes No. But I go in everyday sometimes I love it others I hate it. But it pays my bills and keeps money in my pocket to do things i want to do.

I guess my point to the OP after my lengthy post is, its not a career path I wanted or would have chosen at 18 but throughout life things happened which I made decisions to do things about and ended up with the best job I ever had for 8 years and now have another which again I would have chosen to do but have found I'm good at and enjoy. If you continually seek excuses not to do something you can quickly go from being someone willing to work to being one of those layabouts by default of how long you keep waiting.

Sounds to me you either go all out everyday knocking down doors seeking what you want or get any job that pays your way whilst them using the money it provides to train and do what you want long term instead of looking at short term excuses. But this is just IMO and not a dig!

 

[Andy]

People moan about Polish workers because this is our country which should give more jobs to our citizens, that's all. I'm pretty sure people don't moan about Polish workers for their work ethic. And comparing an 18 year old lad to an immigrant isn't really fair either, of course they're going to jump at jobs most people would prefer not to do.

There is no shortage of jobs for you to pick from. Nobody is restricting the jobs available to you, your doing that pretty much yourself.

Your just too fussy and obviously living the easy life off your Mum.

Who funds the golf and gym lifestyle? Mummy?

Work shy is what I'd say.

 

[bobmac]

Hi Jack, don't worry about it. Most golfers are middle to old aged men stuck in the 1970s who get their views from the Daily Mail and see 18 year olds as hoody wearing layabouts who wear flip flops and jeans to play golf in.

Best of luck in what you do and hope you find something soon.

A little bit OOT there Hacker!!

Did you not see the wink?

 

[Big_Rick78]

Join the Royal Navy, great opportunities, get to see the world, get drunk and paid whilst doing it.
I had 12 years in the mob, and if i hadnt have got married, had kids I would have loved it. Definitely the single mans job.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Did you not see the wink?

Nope...sorry Hacker..... thought that was an odd post from you!!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

The thing about young guys who want to be pros is it is quite a boring lonley life really.
Your average Aspro spends a lot of time one his/her own doing menial tasks.