Lest Westwood on Close House Filly Course

Alex1975 said:
What is the bigger and better thing then? More of the same, or something we will see in the future?

Will Lockey be missed at your club? Was he a good pro there?
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I don't have details of the "bigger and better things" that Tony quoted, but I imagine it will be a progression of what he's doing now.

I've known Matt for probably 15 years from his junior days at Woodbury Park GC, he is a nice lad and will be missed at East Devon GC. He was a good assistant pro there but still learning his trade, I think he probably left a year or two early. I'm sure he'll do well working as Crossfields side kick, but I do hope he doesn't become Crossfields stooge.
 
Mozza73 said:
No he just happens to share the same view as you ;) And calling me a fanboy is hardly helping your case now is it?

Crossfield is a marmite character , I get that, but making out that Westwood was having some sort of titanic struggle to tolerate Crossfield and his buddy is pure conjecture from those who obviously have an axe to grind about him.
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Now your getting it!! Have a little look at the whole rest of this thread and the comments on the youtube videos... your the only guy missing the... Lets call it strain. You just might not have an eye for this kind of thing.

What I actually said was "if you are a fanboy" ....

This matters more to you than it does to me... These are perceptions. Who really cares, but if we want to talk about it... its a forum.
 
I'm quite grateful to the likes of Crossfield, Shiels and co. While my wife is watching Grand Designs or some other drab property programme at least I have a lot of choice of alternative viewing for my favourite hobby and the best part is it is absolutely free.
 
You can take from it what you want but arguing over each others own interpretations is a little silly. Only Lee knows how he felt about them but by the end it certainly looked like he enjoyed the banter..from my perspective anyway. Crossfield himself admits that he's a marmite character and in another Vlog said that at school he needed to be quick on his toes to run away when required !!! This particular Vlog is like Lemon Party, you can't unsee it once you've seen it but you can choose to move on and not go back to MC and C. As a self confessed Coach Lockey "fanboy" i'll be back
 
drewster said:
You can take from it what you want but arguing over each others own interpretations is a little silly. Only Lee knows how he felt about them but by the end it certainly looked like he enjoyed the banter..from my perspective anyway. Crossfield himself admits that he's a marmite character and in another Vlog said that at school he needed to be quick on his toes to run away when required !!! This particular Vlog is like Lemon Party, you can't unsee it once you've seen it but you can choose to move on and not go back to MC and C. As a self confessed Coach Lockey "fanboy" i'll be back
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Is someone put it on youtube... "who is this Westwood guy anyway. I bet he does not even have an army!" :D
 
JV24601 said:
Never ever seen/heard/met the bloke until I read this link yesterday and watched the videos.
Took an instant dislike to him... believe it or not!
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You took an "instant dislike" to someone you have never met or engaged with based on an entertainment video on YouTube? Are you as judgmental to everyone you meet (or don't meet) in life?
 
woody69 said:
You took an "instant dislike" to someone you have never met or engaged with based on an entertainment video on YouTube? Are you as judgmental to everyone you meet (or don't meet) in life?
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Woody, everyone is... Surly you put things on on the TV and think "nope, i am not going to enjoy this" turn it off and never watch it again?
 
Twire said:
I don't have details of the "bigger and better things" that Tony quoted, but I imagine it will be a progression of what he's doing now.

I've known Matt for probably 15 years from his junior days at Woodbury Park GC, he is a nice lad and will be missed at East Devon GC. He was a good assistant pro there but still learning his trade, I think he probably left a year or two early. I'm sure he'll do well working as Crossfields side kick, but I do hope he doesn't become Crossfields stooge.
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I think he will need to step up to the plate and as you say, not just be Crossfield's straight man so to speak. In all the other duos on You Tube (M&MG and Shiels/Finch) they work as a partnership and complement each other. Not sure Crossfield could do that, but happy to be proved wrong.

To be honest out of all of Crossfield's posse think Buzza comes across as the best. I see him and Pickard are having a match off with Shiels/Finch through the Pinseekerz thing which should be good. I know social media always goes on about Shiels/Finch V Crossfield/Locky, but doubt that will happen as not sure if Crossfields ego will let it. But great to see other you tubers collarborating as I think that is the way forwards.

Kind of think Shiels/Finch are leading the way now and innovating more on what they are doing on You Tube. Crossfield's videos are all a bit samey, where as the quest for the Open thing is exciting, despite my initial skepticism. Plus the move to the new studios seems to be good for them.
 
Alex1975 said:
It is human nature to try and perceive what others are thinking and their reactions to that... You see what you see, you may be missing what others see. Not laughable though is it?! Its perception. More of us seem to see it than you in this case....
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The only thing I am failing to see (or understand), why people feel the need to come up with some odd assumption that Westwood is fed up with Mark Crossfield and his behaviour and Crossfield is obviously some kind of annoying bellend, who they now instantly dislike. It's laughable that people are forming such opinions from this cut down footage. Why are people so quick to judge? I guess that is what saddens me the most with comments like this. Oh and I'm not sure that the sample of people replying to this thread is enough evidence to assume your opinion of what Westwood may or may not be feeling towards Mark is particularly worthy of much.
 
Had crossfield acted like the other two players it would have been like watching paint dry.

He acts the maggot for entertainment value. At his own expense most of the time. He knows he is acting the fool but it is a youtube video for fun.

If he was playing in a monthly medal on his own I am sure he would behave much differently.

Westwood would surely know before hand what he is like. In fact he seemed to not take him on when he felt like he was getting too much. He did enjoy having a few barbs at him. Pretty sure he wouldn't enjoy playing with him everyday mind you.
 
Is Crossfield not just playing a part for the cameras? If he was dull and monotone then his popularity would not have taken off. As it is he has made a name for himself and part of that is due to his character. From what people say his one on one lessons are very, very good and he is a different person. This is showbiz and he needs to play up in order to be noticed and to be different.

Youtube is massive now, my daughter recently went to a concert / event of two Youtubers. I still don't know what they do but the place was sold out and she loved it. The world is moving on and Crossfield has picked up on this. Well done him.
 
Alex1975 said:
Woody, everyone is... Surly you put things on on the TV and think "nope, i am not going to enjoy this" turn it off and never watch it again?
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Not enjoying something on the TV and deciding it isn't for you isn't the same as deciding you don't like the person you are watching. Perhaps I am in the minority then, but I prefer to give someone the benefit of the doubt before forming an opinion of them and I try my best to not assume my feelings are necessarily the same as others, like people are doing here with Westwood.
 
woody69 said:
Not enjoying something on the TV and deciding it isn't for you isn't the same as deciding you don't like the person you are watching. Perhaps I am in the minority then, but I prefer to give someone the benefit of the doubt before forming an opinion of them and I try my best to not assume my feelings are necessarily the same as others, like people are doing here with Westwood.
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We clearly don't "have an eye for this sort of thing"
 
woody69 said:
You took an "instant dislike" to someone you have never met or engaged with based on an entertainment video on YouTube? Are you as judgmental to everyone you meet (or don't meet) in life?
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I'd say after the first video I'd made my mind up.
His whole demeanor led me to that conclusion. That's generally all it takes me to make my mind up. I'm all up for it being changed too and have on many occasion, but can't imagine it being the case with this guy.
 
garyinderry said:
Had crossfield acted like the other two players it would have been like watching paint dry.

He acts the maggot for entertainment value. At his own expense most of the time. He knows he is acting the fool but it is a youtube video for fun.

If he was playing in a monthly medal on his own I am sure he would behave much differently.

Westwood would surely know before hand what he is like. In fact he seemed to not take him on when he felt like he was getting too much. He did enjoy having a few barbs at him. Pretty sure he wouldn't enjoy playing with him everyday mind you.
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Gary I didn't watch the video for entertainment. If I'd wanted entertaining I'd have watched somebody funny or a movie.
I watched it to see how Westwood got on, on a course I've played many times. I watched it purely interested in that point so I wasn't bothered about anyone acting the maggot.

Fair enough you obviously wanted entertaining but that highlights the fact that we're all different and we watch things for different reasons and see different things.
 
They act like complete children in every video - what is all the Rink my Dink & up my down Cr*p? you adults talk like adults.

I watch their videos because i like the courses they are playing etc.

Fair play to them for turning this into a business, but they are so infuriating.
 
woody69 said:
Not enjoying something on the TV and deciding it isn't for you isn't the same as deciding you don't like the person you are watching. Perhaps I am in the minority then, but I prefer to give someone the benefit of the doubt before forming an opinion of them and I try my best to not assume my feelings are necessarily the same as others, like people are doing here with Westwood.
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The whole thing is summed up for me in Part 5:
Crossfield asks him a question about Turkey/Portugal and is left with a bit of egg on his face (fair enough, no harm done)
Westwood takes the pee a bit for not knowing
Crossfield and chum make an embarrassing joke out of it with lots of loud giggles (presumably for the good of the video!!) and Westwood looks away not cracking a smile (presumably and hopefully thinking, I'd love to whack these tossers).
Crossfields chum then says (away from Westwood) - having bants with Westwood there.

Just unfunny, annoying little no marks. How's that for an assumption and a formed opinion on someone?

They don't know Westwood yet they're acting like one of his good friends where anything goes. If somebody did that to me I'd think the guy was a crank, never mind if I was Lee Westwood.
 
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