Laying club on floor.

[Tashyboy]

Playing golf today, a PP smashed his drive into a fairway bunker. Anyway it ended up about 2ft from the lip of the bunker. Said PP then gets his 8 iron out. Put it on the floor at the side of the fairway, level with the ball, with the handle facing the green. He then stood on the head to give him the angle from the handle at which the ball should come out of the bunker. He said" well that should get out at that". It did and ended up 120 yds down the fairway at the side of the green.
Four holes later, his ball was about 30 yds behind an old oak tree and he proceeded to do the same, club down stand on it etc etc.
Now I have never seen anything like that before. I have played with him for 5 years and never seen him do it before. Don't even know where he got the idea from.
But, is it legal. I just don't know.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

As long as he didn’t do it in the bunker itself, it’s fine. Done it my self , gives you an idea of launch angle. Not exact of course.

Read a pro recommend it in a mag - can’t remember which

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Someone will be along soon with the correct ruling but j would have thought that was illegal, using artificial aids or something similar. Were you playing between yourselves or in a comp?

 

[robinthehood]

you can use a club on the floor to align yourself, but you cant leave it thier for the actual swing

 

[Tashyboy]

Someone will be along soon with the correct ruling but j would have thought that was illegal, using artificial aids or something similar. Were you playing between yourselves or in a comp?

No it wasn't a knock about, we were in an 18 stableford comp. one thing I have noticed is a couple of times another PP a couple of times was struggling to find his line, so put a club down to get his feet on the right line 😳

 

[Tashyboy]

you can use a club on the floor to align yourself, but you cant leave it thier for the actual swing

Looks like I will be having a word with PP re lining up with a club.😳

 

[jim8flog]

It s against the rules and even if the club is removed before taking the shot you still incur a penalty.

new rule for 2019 Rule 10.2b

 

[Tashyboy]

It s against the rules and even if the club is removed before taking the shot you still incur a penalty.

new rule for 2019

Jim is that for both examples I have quoted 👍

 

[backwoodsman]

As per Jim8flog - not allowed. It's prohibited by rule 10.2b(3)

 

[robinthehood]

It s against the rules and even if the club is removed before taking the shot you still incur a penalty.

new rule for 2019 Rule 10.2b

Nice. Quite a few changes. Tbf I've never seen anyone actually do this.

 

[jim8flog]

Sorry late at night and I misread what is happening.

The laying down of the club is not an aid to stance but is used to judge angle of flight so it is probably not an infringement.

 

[jim8flog]

I would add that interpretation
10.2b(3)/1
Allows a player to place a club behind the ball

 

[Tashyboy]

Cheers boys and many thanks.

 

[jim8flog]

It is something I used to do but stopped doing with the rule chnges. Nice to read I am actully not doing anything wrong.

However I note in the OP you did ay at the side of the ball so could be open to another judgement

 

[CliveW]

One of my pet hates!

Definition....
Floor is the lower surface of a room.
Ground is the solid surface of the earth.

I think this is an English thing as the number of TV programmes I see which refer to the ground as the floor.

 

[backwoodsman]

I would add that interpretation
10.2b(3)/1
Allows a player to place a club behind the ball

But l think that the above decision is only referring to the placing of a clubhead behind the ball - admittedly in a vaguely bizarre way - but putting the clubhead in that location is ultimately part of the process of making a stroke. I dont think the decision justifies or legitimises the laying out of a club in order to judge direction of play

 

[inc0gnito]

It was mentioned in the golf world series with Anna Whiteley. Starts 3:13

 

[Maninblack4612]

One of my pet hates!

Definition....
Floor is the lower surface of a room.
Ground is the solid surface of the earth.

I think this is an English thing as the number of TV programmes I see which refer to the ground as the floor.

And yet the sea has a floor.

 

[robinthehood]

And a bed.

 

[Jacko_G]

And yet the sea has a floor.

Nope, sea bed